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    wolfali
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    but is the longlist jury that selected the additional 3 (in the acting categories) the same jury that decides the 6 nominees?

    No.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Each of the nominations in director are juried. The rule change was only for the acting categories.

    Oh I didn’t remember that, thanks.

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    I was just wondering who do you guys think was the third jury save in supporting actress after Dowd and Robinson? Balfe, Blanchett, DeBose, Dench, Dunst, Negga and Streep are all clearly membership picks. King Richard, The Tragedy of Macbeth and West Side Story were all long-listed for best film and I doubt a jury ran to save Ana de Armas for a Bond movie or Anya Taylor-Joy for a psychological horror.

    Kathryn Hunter is my bet.

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    The jury saves seem straight forward in all the categories – except Supporting Actor.

    Joanna Scanlan
    Renate Reinsve
    Claire Rushbrook
    Riz Ahmed
    Adeel Akhtar
    Stephen Graham
    Ann Dowd
    Kathryn Hunter
    Vinette Robinson
    Benicio del Toro
    Andrew Garfield?
    Woody Norman

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    Having watched West Side Story, my confusion regarding Faist and Alvarez continues 😂. Faist is my personal mvp (alongside Ariana), but I can understand if one would go with Alvarez. Both aren’t really as emotional as the female counterparts (or even Ansel), but they’re incredible performers. Both Riff and Bernardo have a lot of personal problems too. One is xenophobic and racist, the other is extremely controling and lowkey misogynistic. But Riff obviously comes out worse in the picture. Like I said, I would go with Faist, he gave life to a character that was extremely bland in the original and was very hard to look away from him, but Alvarez would be a good pick too.
    So…I still don’t know who the jury will prefer. I’m hoping for Faist tho.

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    Having watched West Side Story, my confusion regarding Faist and Alvarez continues 😂. Faist is my personal mvp (alongside Ariana), but I can understand if one would go with Alvarez. Both aren’t really as emotional as the female counterparts (or even Ansel), but they’re incredible performers. Both Riff and Bernardo have a lot of personal problems too. One is xenophobic and racist, the other is extremely controling and lowkey misogynistic. But Riff obviously comes out worse in the picture. Like I said, I would go with Faist, he gave life to a character that was extremely bland in the original and was very hard to look away from him, but Alvarez would be a good pick too.

    Either one of them would be better than most of the potential nominees, especially Cooper or Leto. They both gave extraordinary performances! It is one of those weird years when the pandemic is messing up everything and the best performances are being ignored by the ignoramous critics.

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    Either one of them would be better than most of the potential nominees, especially Cooper or Leto. They both gave extraordinary performances! It is one of those weird years when the pandemic is messing up everything and the best performances are being ignored by the ignoramous critics.

    Faist is doing well with critics tho. The movie came out a bit late and his buzz is growing each passing day. Lets not forget, he’s not that well known and it’s a bit hard for unknown actors to build strong buzz for late breakers. Lets hope Oscar voters are already aware of him by the time Oscar voting starts.

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    Either one of them would be better than most of the potential nominees, especially Cooper or Leto. They both gave extraordinary performances! It is one of those weird years when the pandemic is messing up everything and the best performances are being ignored by the ignoramous critics.

    It’s also not critics it’s industry. The critics are loving the smaller performances. The industry is tending to favor (or at least so far) more of the larger scale performances given by popular actors. Awards are always a bit populist, but I wouldn’t blame the pandemic for industry support. While people aren’t going to the movies, people went and saw Gucci. WSS in my opinion just didn’t have the draw. The Oscar voters will have seen it and it will do well there, but we can’t expect Mike Faist an unknown to just wipe out Leto or Cooper on just his performance alone. He’s a standout for sure, but I think the campaign and focus has been in DeBose and Zegler. It’s the industry support that will help him and the industry he’s brand new to in terms of film.

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    Having watched West Side Story, my confusion regarding Faist and Alvarez continues 😂. Faist is my personal mvp (alongside Ariana), but I can understand if one would go with Alvarez. Both aren’t really as emotional as the female counterparts (or even Ansel), but they’re incredible performers. Both Riff and Bernardo have a lot of personal problems too. One is xenophobic and racist, the other is extremely controling and lowkey misogynistic. But Riff obviously comes out worse in the picture. Like I said, I would go with Faist, he gave life to a character that was extremely bland in the original and was very hard to look away from him, but Alvarez would be a good pick too. So…I still don’t know who the jury will prefer. I’m hoping for Faist tho.

    While Alvarez gave an excellent performance, Faist completely bodied his, so I have him in. I think the jury will prefer his lost boy take on Riff, and as Bernardo is a role that has already been honored at the Tonys and Oscars, I can see them maybe wanting to shed light onto another performance since Ariana is already going down the same awards-sweeping path with Anita (rightfully so, of course!) I know it’s the jury system so who can be sure but that scene at the bar alone… I just really see a small jury responding to that.

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    Original Screenplay

    1. Belfast – The Globe winner.

    2. Licorice Pizza – I don’t know whether it will in the end (I think it’s quite possible BAFTA give this award to Belfast like they did with Three Billboards) but I do think Licorice Pizza is the Oscar frontrunner for the Oscar equivalent, it did well with the LFCC nominations and PTA films have performed decently at BAFTA in the past so I can definitely see it win.

    3. Don’t Look Up – I’m not entirely confident if the film will be able to replicate the success it achieved on the long-lists but the sheer number (and broad depth) of long-list mentions makes me feel confident it’s at least getting into this category. It’s not like BAFTA have been apathetic to McKay films.

    4. The French Dispatch – Long-listed for best film. The LFCC nominated the screenplay showing that in spite of a polarising critical reception, there is still some high brow appeal behind this film.

    5. C’mon C’mon – This film just has amassed so much love for its screenplay and with the writers branch voting again in round 2 selecting scripts from the long-list, I can see the passion for it help it jump past other contenders like it did for Another Round and Rocks last year. Helps that the field seems to be quite wide open after the top 3.

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    6. Being the Ricardos – Sorkin is quite respected and managed to get in here for Steve Jobs even when he didn’t at the Oscars and there definitely doesn’t seem to be an issue of visibility here with the film getting long-listed in best film. That being said I’m not entirely sure how much the passion matches the visibility. People do definitely seem to love the screenplay there’s no doubt about it, but an equal amount of people also don’t seem to be so warm on it. Is it perhaps telling that the Globe didn’t award it the screenplay award there in spite of awarding Kidman and loving Sorkin films to death?

    7. After Love – It won screenplay at the BIFAs and is an “auteur driven” piece so if it manages to attract enough visibility during this round of voting I can definitely see it slipping in because the passion seems to be there. That being said it doesn’t feel quite as “big” as Rocks (which was on Netflix) was last year.

    8. Parallel Mothers – I was so adamant predicting it earlier on because Almodovar films seem to have a disproportionate amount of support amongst the BAFTA membership but I was not anticipating that damning Penelope Cruz snub. Perhaps it’s just too under-seen.

    9. King Richard – Its path to a nomination very much reminds me of how Hidden Figures got in. It’s not a film that BAFTA members are going to go overboard for but it’s still a widely seen Oscar contender. That being said it does feel like it has lost some steam which wasn’t really the case with Hidden Figures at this stage.

    10. Last Night in Soho – Going by these long-lists BAFTA members clearly seem to have taken quite a shine to this film and it’s probably got enough support to be one of the 5 “membership films” to get into British film. I’m not predicting it because the screenplay was what made this film receive a polarising reception but at the same time BAFTA have nominated screenplays with polarising receptions before in films they’ve liked overall (and could potentially do so this year with so many other scripts in both these categories) and for whatever reason there do seem to be quite a few people who loved this film’s screenplay quite a bit.

    11. The Worst Person in the World – People seem to be catching up on this film and there definitely does seem to be passion there but at the same time I just wonder if it’s too little too late? The voting period may be two weeks long but that still doesn’t feel like enough for a film that hasn’t had the most ideal distribution and is having a UK release at the end of March(!) It also under-performed quite a bit on the long-list unlike Another Round. Then again if any body is reactive to this film it’s probably going to be BAFTA considering how much movies not in the English language have been embraced in the past (even if that’s less of a case in this specific year).

    12. Petite Maman – As I said before I’m wary of Sciamma because she seems to have a lot of goodwill on the back of Portrait of a Lady on Fire and this is quite an acclaimed film. Then again I’m not entirely sure if anyone sees this film as a big achievement in writing.

    13. The Hand of God – Performed decently on the long-lists but similarly the screenplay of this movie doesn’t seem to be a big talking point (at least in retrospect to Sorrentino’s directorial achievement).

    14-15. The Card Counter and The Duke – Should be thankful the field was wide open enough for them to be long-listed.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Thought I would share this.

    Here are last year’s Oscar nominations that were not BAFTA longlisted:

    Best Picture: Minari and Judas and the Black Messiah

    Lead Actress: Andra Day

    Supporting Actor: LaKeith Stanfield (he was longlisted in Lead Actor though)

    International Film: Better Days and the Man Who Sold His Skin

    Documantary Feature: Time and The Mole Agent

    Costumes: Pinocchio

    Visual Effects: Love and Monsters

    Especially in the tech categories, if you are not on the longlist, your chances are extremely slim.

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    I was looking over the BAFTA predictions from the Top24. Do some people know the Director nominees are being selected by a jury?

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    I was looking over the BAFTA predictions from the Top24. Do some people know the Director nominees are being selected by a jury?

    At least they understand the rules of the acting categories though.

    I mean the difference in the odds-

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Having watched West Side Story, my confusion regarding Faist and Alvarez continues 😂. Faist is my personal mvp (alongside Ariana), but I can understand if one would go with Alvarez. Both aren’t really as emotional as the female counterparts (or even Ansel), but they’re incredible performers. Both Riff and Bernardo have a lot of personal problems too. One is xenophobic and racist, the other is extremely controling and lowkey misogynistic. But Riff obviously comes out worse in the picture. Like I said, I would go with Faist, he gave life to a character that was extremely bland in the original and was very hard to look away from him, but Alvarez would be a good pick too.
    So…I still don’t know who the jury will prefer. I’m hoping for Faist tho.

    I have both getting in at the Oscars.

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    Kathryn Hunter is getting nominated, right ?

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