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    That may be your opinion and nothing is clear here. Hunter and Foster were better in those years imo. Academy clearly prefered other performances. I would give 1982 supporting Oscar to Glenn but thats it.

    I phrased that quote wrong. I shouldn’t have said Close “clearly” deserved to win. I agree Foster and Hunter (and others) had their supporters.

    My point was that Close has 7 nominations and for 4 of them some people would say she deserved to win. That is why I say she’s overdue.

    (Compared to Adams who really never was touted as a possible winner and probably only with Junebug would some people say she was their favorite.)

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    She was lucky that the category was terribly weak and that Bening and The Report didnt take off.

    Let’s be honest, even if The Report did and Bening made it on Oscar nom morning and was Dern’s actual competition at the Globes instead of Lopez, she would not have beat her. Bening, in all honestly with her awards luck, will probably never win an Oscar. Her best bet was 20 years ago for American Beauty and I don’t see it aligning for her like that again. Dern was on a roll these past couple of year’s and there was really no way she was losing this year, especially the year of Renata breaking the internet. And imo, she was by far the best winner out of this year’s bunch, though that’s up for debate.

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    (Compared to Adams who really never was touted as a possible winner and probably only with Junebug would some people say she was their favorite.)

    There’s a small but observable minority who would have voted for Adams in The Master, myself included. She even won two of the main US critics awards for it.

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    Let’s be honest, even if The Report did and Bening made it on Oscar nom morning and was Dern’s actual competition at the Globes instead of Lopez, she would not have beat her. Bening, in all honestly with her awards luck, will probably never win an Oscar. Her best bet was 20 years ago for American Beauty and I don’t see it aligning for her like that again. Dern was on a roll these past couple of year’s and there was really no way she was losing this year, especially the year of Renata breaking the internet. And imo, she was by far the best winner out of this year’s bunch, though that’s up for debate.

    Who do you think the Academy is more resistant to: Bening or Close? I think both are strong possibilities in the next few cycles.

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    There’s a small but observable minority who would have voted for Adams in The Master, myself included. She even won two of the main US critics awards for it.

    I still don’t understand their resistance to her? Giving her a supporting win would have killed this stalemate they have themselves in.

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    Resistance? Stalemate? LOL Academy nominated Glenn 7 times(including for stuff The Wife, Albert Nobbs and The Natural). They LOVE her.And I guess she knows it too. Same for Amy Adams. Academy clearly loves them.

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    The thing with Glenn and Amy (and more recently Bradley Cooper) is that the Academy likes them enough to nominate them for stuff like Albert Nobbs, American Hustle, and American Sniper, but the films don’t have the passion to give them wins.

    Even some with some of their performances closest to the win they were just not strong enough. Glenn was the sole nomination for The Wife and The Master was snubbed in everything but acting.

    I do think that if Glenn loses this year the Academy is not going to risk it and she’ll probably get an honorary next year and give her a competitive win if she is any good in a movie after that (like Paul Newman), maybe for Sunset Boulevard.

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    Interestingly, Bening, who has been on the Academy’s Board of Governors for 12 years now, hasn’t been able to convert any of her recent buzzed about performances into nominations, while Dern, who has only been on that board for 4, not only locked in an Oscar herself but also likely had some role in getting an honorary award for David Lynch as well. Just a cynical observation.

    Focusing on the women (because the overdue men like Bradley Cooper, Willem Dafoe, and Ed Harris are “only” at 4 nominations), the overdue narrative arguably did work for Julianne Moore recently in what I would argue was one of her weaker performances. And she still hasn’t been able to follow it up with an “I’m still doing good work” nomination the way that Jeff Bridges, Leonardo DiCaprio, and even finally Al Pacino did (Kate Winslet did too, just so there is a female example). Shirley Maclaine and Susan Sarandon are in similar positions to Moore with their ultimate wins, although I think that their winning performances could be argued as career best and that they did strong work post-win.

    The clear “still overdue” choices are Glenn Close and Amy Adams. I think Adams could still win a competitive prize, but I do worry about the opportunities for a woman in her 70s who has always competed and continues to compete for those good opportunities with the likes of Meryl Streep. My hunch is that Close will win an honorary Oscar in the next 10 years. And it will probably be presented to her by Amy Adams (paralleling Close presenting to Deborah Kerr). But I’m still holding out hope for Hillbilly Elegy!

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    Resistance? Stalemate? LOL Academy nominated Glenn 7 times(including for stuff The Wife, Albert Nobbs and The Natural). They LOVE her.And I guess she knows it too. Same for Amy Adams. Academy clearly loves them.

    That’s respect not love when you’re a multi-nominee without ever winning.

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    So theoretically, Glenn couldve lost by two votes and that is difference between love and respect. That is luck. She is both loved and respected by AMPAS.

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    I still don’t understand their resistance to her? Giving her a supporting win would have killed this stalemate they have themselves in.

    Let’s just be thankful that the HFPA didn’t start a steamroll trend and she would’ve won over Moore for “Big Eyes”.

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    I wish The Wife had been released a year earlier. (It was ready and fresh off great reviews from film festivals.)

    I think she’d have stood a good chance at winning since Frances McDormand was on her second Oscar and Glenn had none.

    (Although the problem with The Wife is probably the title. Lots of men probably saw the name and thought chick flick and through the screener away.)

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    I wish The Wife had been released a year earlier. (It was ready and fresh off great reviews from film festivals.)

    I think she’d have stood a good chance at winning since Frances McDormand was on her second Oscar and Glenn had none.

    (Although the problem with The Wife is probably the title. Lots of men probably saw the name and thought chick flick and through the screener away.)

    The Wife wouldn’t have derailed none of the women who made the final five in 2017. 2018 was surprisingly wide open. And the early front runner status for Gaga definitely helped Glenn’s case as an alternative.

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    The Wife wouldn’t have derailed none of the women who made the final five in 2017. 2018 was surprisingly wide open. And the early front runner status for Gaga definitely helped Glenn’s case as an alternative.

    Maybe but I think Meryl in The Post was vulnerable.

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    2018 was the right decision regarding The Wife, late 2019 would have been even better.

    This tbh. I adore Dern and glad she has an Oscar but it really says something about competition when her closet / only all season long was a Razzie favourite popstar that would’ve been her film’s sole nomination.

    I really don’t think it was about the competition being weak, she mostly won for being Laura Dern.

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