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    They do like to award the most editing, but position in the Best Picture race is also a factor. That tipped it to Dunkirk over Baby Driver. 1917 is too much of a contender overall not to pick up both sound awards, so a split with editing is inevitable if you ask me.

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    The problem with Ford v Ferrari is that its editing is only notable in the racing sequences. That wasn’t true of movies like Gravity, Fury Road and Dunkirk, which had flashy editing the whole way through. And Whiplash had the music sequences, but the rest of the movie was very well edited too. And we all know Bohemian Rhapsody was a special case. So the only really comparable example this decade is Hacksaw Ridge I would say.

    Meanwhile, Parasite has obviously great editing the whole time. And it’s important to remember that The Social Network and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo both won Best Editing, and Parasite is very similar to a Fincher movie.

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    They do like to award the most editing, but position in the Best Picture race is also a factor. That tipped it to Dunkirk over Baby Driver. 1917 is too much of a contender overall not to pick up both sound awards, so a split with editing is inevitable if you ask me.

    I wouldn’t be sure about that. La La Land was widely predicted to win both sound awards in 2017 and it won neither. They were split between Arrival and Hacksaw. If FvF wins Editing I think it wins Sound Mixing as well, since that award’s been paired with Editing since 2013, and 1917 will win Sound Editing.

    For Your Consideration

    Best Picture: Parasite
    Best Director: Bong-Joon Ho,
    Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix
    Best Actress: Scarlett Johansson
    Supporting Actor: Al Pacino
    Supporting Actress: Florence Pugh
    Adapted Screenplay: Jojo Rabbit
    Original Screenplay: Parasite

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    La La Land was more predicted in Sound Mixing due to Oscar’s history of awarding musicals in that category. I don’t think it was the frontrunner in editing other than the folks who thought it would just take both because conventional wisdom is that people largely don’t understand the difference between the two categories.

    Top 3 Films of the Year: Parasite, The Farewell, OUATIH

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    La La Land was more predicted in Sound Mixing due to Oscar’s history of awarding musicals in that category. I don’t think it was the frontrunner in editing other than the folks who thought it would just take both because conventional wisdom is that people largely don’t understand the difference between the two categories.

    At one point during this race I was predicting Hacksaw Ridge to win Editing. To this day, I feel so stupid for sheeping out and switching to La La Land.

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    Roger Deakins wins ASC

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    Gabriel Guarin
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    Roger Deakins wins ASC

    This is a foregone conclusion at the Oscars.

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    Why wasn’t Scott Millan included in the sound mixing nomination for 1917?

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    I wouldn’t be sure about that. La La Land was widely predicted to win both sound awards in 2017 and it won neither. They were split between Arrival and Hacksaw. If FvF wins Editing I think it wins Sound Mixing as well, since that award’s been paired with Editing since 2013, and 1917 will win Sound Editing.

    This reasoning seems counterintuitive and relies too heavily on stats. Film Editing paired with Sound Mixing the last few times for no reason other than the loudest or most musical movie also having the fastest cutting or the most complex structure, it’s as simple as that. (Gravity is the exception but that’s a special case.) If the frontrunner for either award isn’t nominated for the other, we need not worry much about that. Sooner or later the stat will break, just like the recurring Directing and Cinematography combination did with The Shape of Water.

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    Anyone else predicting Joker for Makeup?

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    No, but I am curious about BAFTA Makeup. If they can pass over BAFTA Editing winner Vice, they can pass over Bombshell. Joker could be the alternative, as you could argue that The Favourite won because it had BAFTA support across the board. It does not help Bombshell‘s case that the transformation is less pronounced than Vice. The through-line at BAFTA is that they never award contemporary work, which is again another knock on Bombshell. There is not much hair work in Joker though, so it is not a great challenger.

    On another note, Jojo Rabbit would be in an upset position for Costumes if not for all of the swastikas. The clothes are stylish in a The Grand Budapest Hotel kind of way. We shall see if it can upset Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with the guild. They often just go with whatever is closest to Best Picture though.

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    On another note, Jojo Rabbit would be in an upset position for Costumes if not for all of the swastikas. The clothes are stylish in a The Grand Budapest Hotel kind of way. We shall see if it can upset Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with the guild. They often just go with whatever is closest to Best Picture though.

    Little Women will probably win Costume Design, especially with Jacqueline Duran at the helm.

    For Your Consideration

    Best Picture: Parasite
    Best Director: Bong-Joon Ho,
    Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix
    Best Actress: Scarlett Johansson
    Supporting Actor: Al Pacino
    Supporting Actress: Florence Pugh
    Adapted Screenplay: Jojo Rabbit
    Original Screenplay: Parasite

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    The case against anything other than Once Upon a Time winning Production Design:

    1. The Critics’ Choice are the most reliable precursor in this category, only missing twice in the past (Inception over Alice in Wonderland, Anna Karenina over Lincoln). They even called upsets in this category, like last year’s Black Panther winning over frontrunner The Favourite.

    2. Parasite is a contemporary film, and those rarely win. The most recent example, La La Land, was set in Los Angeles at its most extravagant and glamorous.

    3. War films rarely win in this category, especially in this day and age. Apocalpyse Now, Saving Private Ryan and Dunkirk all lost. Hacksaw Ridge wasn’t even nominated. 1917’s recreation of World War I may be impressive, but the sheer detail and beauty of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’s recreation of the titular place during the 60’s is what the Academy tends to gravitate towards (see also: The Great Gatsby). I just don’t see the voters from either the Academy or ADG blindly ticking off 1917 for Production Design just because.

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    3. War films rarely win in this category, especially in this day and age. Apocalpyse Now, Saving Private Ryan and Dunkirk all lost. Hacksaw Ridge wasn’t even nominated. 1917’s recreation of World War I may be impressive, but the sheer detail and beauty of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’s recreation of the titular place during the 60’s is what the Academy tends to gravitate towards (see also: The Great Gatsby). I just don’t see the voters from either the Academy or ADG blindly ticking off 1917 for Production Design just because.

    I think 1917 has an advantage over those other films just because it was filmed in so many long takes and they had to design massive sets for each shot that all seamlessly flowed together so that the audience wouldn’t notice. (!Same reason I’m predicting 1917 in Vidual Effects right now.) And they did a fantastic job at it. So I wouldn’t be so certain it loses ADG: it’s a solid threat there.

    For Your Consideration

    Best Picture: Parasite
    Best Director: Bong-Joon Ho,
    Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix
    Best Actress: Scarlett Johansson
    Supporting Actor: Al Pacino
    Supporting Actress: Florence Pugh
    Adapted Screenplay: Jojo Rabbit
    Original Screenplay: Parasite

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