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  • John Locke
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    I’ve seen both films and there’s not a place in this universe I could consider Banderas’ performance better than Phoenix’s. Both performances are not even in the same league IMO.

    That depends on what kind of performance you prefer. I just felt Banderas WAS Almodóvar. It was such a powerful performance but restrained at the same time. It was a real person.

    On the other hand, as I said in other posts, Phoenix is pretty good but I felt he made a lot of effort and sometimes I saw him acting and didn’t think he was a real person. That’s why I lean towards Banderas’ masterful performance. But to each their own!

    Spark87
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    That depends on what kind of performance you prefer. I just felt Banderas WAS Almodóvar. It was such a powerful performance but restrained at the same time. It was a real person.

    On the other hand, as I said in other posts, Phoenix is pretty good but I felt he made a lot of effort and sometimes I saw him acting and didn’t think he was a real person. That’s why I lean towards Banderas’ masterful performance. But to each their own!

    You see Banderas being subtle while I don’t see him doing anything at all, but that’s of course just my personal opinion (even DiCaprio was way better than Banderas this year in my book). I also felt Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck/Joker always a real person… while also being so multi-versed, there’s too much subtle in that performance too.

    But I can picture Phoenix doing what Banderas did with his eyes closed, while I cannot picture Banderas doing what Phoenix did in “Joker”.

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    Marcel
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    But I can picture Phoenix doing what Banderas did with his eyes closed, while I cannot picture Banderas doing what Phoenix did in “Joker”.

    I think it doesn’t matter what one is capable of doing, what’s being judged is one particular performance. If what he does, he does better, it does not matter whether he can’t do something else.. and just because Banderas doesn’t go for that kind of role (like Joker) doesn’t mean he is not capable. We have not seen him even trying, in order to compare.

    I can picture Ridley Scott (“American Gangster”) directing “Casino”, but I can’t picture Scorsese directing “Alien”. Doesn’t mean he is worse. He just doesn’t go for that kind of movie.

    Nikhil
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    Banderas is in trouble. He’s Hawke from last year but will have a lot less success, given my hunch is that many critics prizes will go to Driver. I could even see DeNiro poaching from him if the critics groups really carry The Irishman.

    I doubt the HFPA is going to award Banderas, and, given their track record of late, I would say that group might be one of the least likely to award him best actor.

    Also, and someone might know better, but can foreign film actors compete in the acting categories? I don’t remember the last one who did because I don’t think the Roma ladies got in last year. Pain and Glory will have to go into foreign film and will not be eligible in Drama. Are actors still eligible in drama/comedy if the film isn’t categorized as such?

    My personal Top 5 of 2019 so far:
    1) Parasite 2) The Farewell 3) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 4) Joker 5) Jojo Rabbit

    Seven
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    He wasn’t getting nominated anyway, so he knows what he’s doing.

    I don’t even know where the fake hype was coming from. Delusional af

    Movie nerd
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    Some comments here (without pointing out 3 or 4 obvious ones) are on the verge of straight up trolling or just pure hating.

    Accusation of “overact” is simply funny It is kind of role you go all in, it’s not subtle role.

    I remember I read somwhere that when Shining came out there were some critics who accused Jack of going over the top. That’s the same kind of stupidity.

    John Berchmans
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    My prediction is that Joker gets the same boost that Bohemian Rhapsody got from the HFPA by winning Drama Film and Drama Actor, making it’s status as a Picture nominee and Actor winner undeniable.

    For Your Consideration.

    Best Picture: Parasite, Jojo Rabbit, Joker, Ford v Ferrari
    Best Director: Bong-Joon Ho, Taika Waititi, Todd Phillips
    Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix, Robert Pattinson, Roman Griffin Davis, Christian Bale
    Best Actress: Lupita Nyong'o
    Best Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe, Song Kang-Ho, Sam Rockwell
    Best Supporting Actress: Thomasin McKensie, Cho Yeo-Jeong
    Best Adapted Screenplay: Jojo Rabbit, Joker
    Best Original Screenplay: Parasite, Ford v Ferrari

    Seven
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    My prediction is that Joker gets the same boost that Bohemian Rhapsody got from the HFPA by winning Drama Film and Drama Actor, making it’s status as a Picture nominee and Actor winner undeniable.

    That’s… possible tbh

    If there’s one thing that HFPA proved last year, it’s that they don’t care about a Metascore. Rhapsody and its awful 49 beat four movies that were rated above 80 💀

    Arthur J. Fleck
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    I respect Antonio Banderas but his performance is too subtle to win the Oscar. Those who say Phoenix doesn’t inhabit his character need to research for help.

    All I have are negative thoughts

    Hammad Asif
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    Joaquin didn’t play Joker in this movie.

    It was Arthur Fleck character study,a origin of cinema’s most loved villain.Joaquin plays Joker for 5-10 mins and he absolutely nails it.

    I can see Joaquin playing Joker in further DCEU movies effortlessly but that is highly unlikely.

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    Megan
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    Let’s be real. Phoenix is sadly winning. Banderas is the best performance. Children will say Banderas does nothing, because they know nothing about acting.

    I serve the tea (politely)

    Spark87
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    Joaquin didn’t play Joker in this movie.

    It was Arthur Fleck character study,a origin of cinema’s most loved villain.Joaquin plays Joker for 5-10 mins and he absolutely nails it.

    I can see Joaquin playing Joker in further DCEU movies effortlessly but that is highly unlikely.

    That’s it. There are so many minutes of innuendos and subtle moment in his character that denying the obvious can only come for someone who hasn’t seen the performance at all.

    babypook
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    Let’s be real. Phoenix is sadly winning. Banderas is the best performance.

    Children will say Banderas does nothing, because they know nothing about acting.

    Well neither do you, over-actor.

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    Megan
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    Let’s be real. Thatcher liked my post!!! She’s coming for our wigs.

    I serve the tea (politely)

    Marcel
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    I respect Antonio Banderas but his performance is too subtle to win the Oscar. Those who say Phoenix doesn’t inhabit his character need to research for help.

    That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea was the very definition of a subtle performance. He won by playing a very quiet, introspective man who was dead on the inside.

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