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  • thatnerdgreg
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    Just saw Joker. Phoenix was exceptional. He’d be a very deserving winner. I’ll have to see more contenders before I choose him as my horse in this race, but even if I find another performance I prefer, I can’t imagine being upset over Joaquin taking the Oscar. Absolutely wonderful work (though no one will ever top Ledger).

    Babygirl
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    Y’all need to remember that it’s October. You can say you think ____ is winning but let’s not say anyone’s a lock yet, for all we know Pryce could sweep or something.

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    Y’all need to remember that it’s October. You can say you think ____ is winning but let’s not say anyone’s a lock yet, for all we know Pryce could sweep or something.

    Yep, at this point last year Gaga was winning Best Actress, getting a Nobel Peace Prize and becoming the first woman to travel to Saturn. The overhype is strong in these races.

    BICTH
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    Yep, at this point last year Gaga was winning Best Actress, getting a Nobel Peace Prize and becoming the first woman to travel to Saturn. The overhype is strong in these races.

    wasn’t she actually supposed to sing in space at some point?

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    I hate to be that person, but Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor won’t be both entirely full of white actors, given how much shit the Oscars have gotten in recent years. Regardless of your opinion on the whole debacle, it’s unlikely for them to not have at least one POC on their ballot. Right now I have Eddie Murphy for Dolemite, but I’m betting on Daniel Kaluuya for Queen & Slim, which looks amazing from what I’ve seen.

    You are being that person. Is it a problem that this year the best performances might primarily come from white actors? We had 2x PoC winners last year, maybe this year there just isn’t a standout PoC performance. As others have pointed out, Banderas and Lopez are Latinos and may well be nominated, plus some actors from The Farewell might be in the running.  No PoC nominees is not the same thing as a lack of diversity.

    wattsgold
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    wasn’t she actually supposed to sing in space at some point?

    That would’ve made some funny ass GIFs.

    Bottom line is: if that wishful thinking didn’t work for her last year with massive BO numbers and a multi nominated film, the forced predictions for Joaquin and Driver won’t work either. I mean, there’s a chance one of them gets it, but I really question everything after this year.

    Boz
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    You are being that person. Is it a problem that this year the best performances might primarily come from white actors? We had 2x PoC winners last year, maybe this year there just isn’t a standout PoC performance. As others have pointed out, Banderas and Lopez are Latinos and may well be nominated, plus some actors from The Farewell might be in the running. No PoC nominees is not the same thing as a lack of diversity.

    Well, the thing is that there are many deserving PoC in the hunt for a nomination. Besides, it is widely understood that the Academy is trying to open up to more actors of color (about time). I’m just saying, an entirely white line-up is not going to happen. They won’t risk having another #OscarsSoWhite moment.

    Sidenote: Antonio Banderas is not Latino; he’s from Spain.

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    Well, the thing is that there are many deserving PoC in the hunt for a nomination. Besides, it is widely understood that the Academy is trying to open up to more actors of color (about time). I’m just saying, an entirely white line-up is not going to happen. They won’t risk having another #OscarsSoWhite moment. Sidenote: Antonio Banderas is not Latino; he’s from Spain.

    Thanks for the correction re. Banderas. Not having a go at you personally, its just annoying that this Oscars So White things drags on. If voters do think how you described and feel obliged to nominate one PoC performer just for representation (and over other more deserving performers) then that’s not right.

    John Berchmans
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    Is it embarising that I thought Banderas was Latino until yesterday?

    For Your Consideration.

    Best Picture: Parasite, Jojo Rabbit, Joker, Ford v Ferrari
    Best Director: Bong-Joon Ho, Taika Waititi, Todd Phillips
    Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix, Robert Pattinson, Roman Griffin Davis, Christian Bale
    Best Actress: Lupita Nyong'o
    Best Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe, Song Kang-Ho, Sam Rockwell
    Best Supporting Actress: Thomasin McKensie, Cho Yeo-Jeong
    Best Adapted Screenplay: Jojo Rabbit, Joker
    Best Original Screenplay: Parasite, Ford v Ferrari

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    Yep, at this point last year Gaga was winning Best Actress, getting a Nobel Peace Prize and becoming the first woman to travel to Saturn. The overhype is strong in these races.

    Yeah, it’s just annoying how when a contender’s film finally comes out while we’re waiting to see the others, people automatically say “____ is a lock! There is no way ___ is losing!” then when the another contender’s film comes out they jump to that one. Let’s not act like the Globes are tomorrow lol.

    babypook
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    Well I’m for letting people have fun with the ups and downs and 11th hour candidates of Oscar season.
    It’s only October but we can still enjoy the ride.
    It’s a learning curve

    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
    Philip K Dick Blade Runner

    Boz
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    Is it embarising that I thought Banderas was Latino until yesterday?

    Most non-Hispanics make the same mistake putting Latinos and Hispanics in the same boat. It’s never too late to learn something new.

    Seven
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    Yep, at this point last year Gaga was winning Best Actress, getting a Nobel Peace Prize and becoming the first woman to travel to Saturn. The overhype is strong in these races.

    And ASIB was the new Titanic, “too big to fail”, Best Picture frontrunner, potential big 5 sweeper etc

    lol

    Boz
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    WTF?

    antonio is neither hispanic or latino, he is european(spain)

    He is hispanic. Spain is a hispanic country. One can be hispanic and european – as well as hispanic and american.

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    I hate to be that person, but Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor won’t be both entirely full of white actors, given how much shit the Oscars have gotten in recent years. Regardless of your opinion on the whole debacle, it’s unlikely for them to not have at least one POC on their ballot. Right now I have Eddie Murphy for Dolemite, but I’m betting on Daniel Kaluuya for Queen & Slim, which looks amazing from what I’ve seen.

    I think Daniel Kaluuya is a possibility in the acting categories. But I could easily see the two actor categories being very white this year. Just not a lot of minority performances in contention. Kaluuya has a lot of bigger more established names (Dicaprio, Phoenix, De Niro, Bale, Pryce) that he is going to have to overcome to get a nomination.

    I do think the Actress/Supporting Actresses races have bigger potential for Diversity, with Awkwafina, Zhao Shuzhen, Alfre Woodard, Jennifer Lopez, and Cynthia Erivo as possible nominees. If Joker is bigger than we think with awards voters Zazie Beetz could sneak in as well.

    I think as long as the Actress categories are diverse it will subdue controversy away from the actor categories not being.

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