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    BAFTA – get slated if they nominate a load of British actors and films. Get slated when they don’t nominate a load of British actors and films. Not hypocritical at all!

    The problem has never been to show favour of Europe-Brit centric filmmakers and artists; the problem is to recognize the wrong ones.
    That atrocious Theory of Everything dominating the nominations over Mr.Turner or even The Imitation Game last year, for instance.

    But even that is better than trying to play catch up with the Oscars.

    And why do you always defend anything or anyone related to UK for full extent, as if we’re thrashing the country overall?
     The truth is, the American industry has been better of recognizing worldwide talents in recent years while BAFTA is even unable to discover the gems from its own land. People always complain about the Academy members being old and boring but BAFTA is five times more old-fashioned than AMPAS when it comes to filmmaking.
     

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    BAFTA – get slated if they nominate a load of British actors and films. Get slated when they don’t nominate a load of British actors and films. Not hypocritical at all!

    The problem has never been to show favour of Europe-Brit centric filmmakers and artists; the problem is to recognize the wrong ones.
    That atrocious Theory of Everything dominating the nominations over Mr.Turner or even The Imitation Game last year, for instance.

    But even that is better than trying to play catch up with the Oscars.

    And why do you always defend anything or anyone related to UK for full extent, as if we’re thrashing the country overall?
     The truth is, the American industry has been better of recognizing worldwide talents in recent years while BAFTA is even unable to discover the gems from its own land. People always complain about the Academy members being old and boring but BAFTA is five times more old-fashioned than AMPAS when it comes to filmmaking.
     
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    But then it’s hugely subjective to suggest that they are the wrong ones

    Mr Turner was such a snooze fest, and The Theory of Everything really took off in the UK in a way that The Imitation Game didn’t.

    I don’t say people are hating on the UK, it’s just that when people slate BAFTAs decisions, I give a bit more context to their decisions. I live in the UK so have more of a view as to what is and what isn’t connecting and being seen over here. Likewise someone over in America knows what is going on over there more than myself, such as who is out there campaigning and what films are really hitting it big.

    How has BAFTA been crap and recognising British talent? That is a bullshit claim. Plus their choices are more interesting than the Oscars, not looking purely at the baity films – Whiplash in Director last year, Drive in Best Film, Michael Fassbender for Shame for example. All highly contemporary films overlooked either entirely or in categories that BAFTA were wise to include them in.

    This year, Carol and Bridge of Spies lead the race – I’m guessing that’s why the ‘old fashioned’ comment? It’s not old fashioned. They are fantastic, gripping stories told expertly with phenomenal performances and technique behind them. The more non traditional fare this year, like Mad Max, does not have all those components.

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    BAFTA used to be a very distinctive awards group, whatever you thought of their choices. Not anymore. They’ve been getting gradually lazier every year recently, some occasional unique choices notwithstanding.

    Btw, the British Film nod for 45 Years can be explained by the committee than decide three of the nominees (based on the numbers I’m guessing these were 45 Years, Amy and The Lobster). So it’s highly plausible that some voters didn’t even see Rampling’s outstanding performance. Remember that article two years ago by an anonymous BAFTA member about how so many people vote by buzz and reputation without seeing all the films? It’s an open secret.

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    @AMG No. Carol and Bridge of Spies didn’t even come to my mind when I’m making that statement. And I’ve only tried to explain to you why people never get satisfied with BAFTA results after reading your question. Of course, it’s subjective. But you can’t expect people to praise BAFTA “only because” they nominate some of their own, or the reverse. The merit is the main priority. Last year, they critized them for showering TTOfE with nominations, because it was an unpopular movie around GoldDerby; the anger had nothing to with film being Brit centric or anything. On the other hand, no one blamed them for awarding Emmanuelle Riva three years ago.(Except O.Russell lol) So your argument regarding “You can’t love them when they’re favouring British, you can’t love them when they’re favouring Americans. What can they possibly do to earn your respect??” is flawed at best.

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    1. Brie Larson -“Room”
    2. Saoirse Ronan – “Brooklyn”
    3. Cate Blanchett – “Carol”
    4. Charlotte Rampling – “45 years”
    5. Alicia Vikander – “The Danish Girl”
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    6. Jennifer Lawrence – “Joy”
    7. Maggie Smith – “The Lady in the Van”

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    What is this sudden Maggie Smith prediction coming from? If someone from comedy is getting in at the Oscars, it’s Lily Tomlin.

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    Ol’ Maggs could easily snatch the Oscar.
    Watch out. 

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    I don’t even understand the argument of Vikander being a double nominee and then “she’s surely winning in supporting.”. If Vikander is a double nominee, Rooney Mara or Kate Winslet will beat her ass in supporting….if she’s a supporting actress nominee for “The Dansh Girl”….that’s a different case…

    I’m sorry but Kate Winslet for Steve Jobs?! Winslet is a filler. Her film isn’t really that well-liked and her performance is completely average. She’s not winning for that. And if Vikander makes it into both leading ad supporting, she’s winning supporting. She’ll have too much media attention and two solid performances. Even if she only makes it into supporting (with Ex Machina) and Mara is in leading, she has more of a shot than Winslet. If both Mara and Vikander are in supporting, I guess Mara could be unbeatable.  But well, Mara deserves to be in leading. She’s the best thing about Carol and even more of a lead than Blanchett. 
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    Naming Winslet as a filler is a joke. She’s anything but a filler. Her movie is not that big of a success, still, she’s nominated everywhere, including all precursors and all critics prizes. She’s the first safe for the nomination, so calling her a filler just because you personally dislike her performance is not right. And to dismiss her chance for the same reasons, is also unfair. She’s going to get her 7th Oscar nomination at the age of 40 – she’s pretty beloved to kick a newcomer’s ass.

    Alicia is not winning in supporting for THAT performance. She’s not even going to get nominated as it’s not a typicial Oscar-worthy performance the Academy like to reward.
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    Be realistic!
    All I need is a single sign that she’s in the conversation for a win.
    So far I don’t see the passion for the performance. She’s been nominated. So what?! 
    Tilda Swinton hit all the precursors for We Need To Talk About Kevin and she actually won awards. 
    Do you know how many awards Winslet won for Steve Jobs? Zero. Yes, the Globes, Critics’ Choice, SAG and BAFTA’s are tba, but the odds aren’t in her favor. Vikander has just so much going for her. She has two much discussed performances this year. She won plenty of critics’ awards, including LAFCA. She’s your typical Golden Globe winner and last time Winslet won the Oscar (and Globe), it was an overdue win that wasn’t really a win for the particular performance. She wanted the Oscar badly. She got it. The Academy isn’t oblged to give her another. What’s more important is that they know it. She’s not winning, not for the first good thing she does after her win. It’s not a major comeback role. It isn’t a huge critical sensation. It’s not as if there aren’t other options. You make it sound as if she’s a huge contender for the win and all I wonder is: Where is the passion for the performance? I don’t see it. 

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    Yeah, I don’t see Kate getting easy #1 votes this year. Plenty of actors will rank her in the top 5, but because there’s not much passion for her film she could easily miss out to sleeper contenders in this oddball year a la Swinton. Best Supporting Actress is the most interesting category this year. No one is safe for one reason or another.

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    Here are my thoughts on where Winslet placed each year:  
     
    1. I think Winslet definitely was second for Sense And Sensibility-  Like Vince said,  SAG and BAFTA wins as well as her being the best in show of that movie, not to mention that Allen’s film stunk, makes her a clear second that year. 

    2. Dench was most likely second in 97 though and Winslet was third.  

    3. She was most likely fifth for Iris, since Tomei was in a best picture nominee and had a more Oscary role.  

    4. I beiieve she was  fourth for Eternal Sunshine. It’s a popular performance now, but she had no buzz then.   Imelda and Annette were second and third.  

    5. She was probably fifth for Little Children, although you’d think they’d have played the overdue angle here, but the film had no real momentum in anyway so poor Kate had no chance in hell of winning or even being a competitor that year since Mirren dominated the race so much.  Like I’ve said before, that race was obviuously one of the closest the Oscars have ever come to a unamious  decision. 

    6. She obviously was first for The Reader 

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