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January 26, 2023 at 6:05 pm #1205269836
This thread is chaotic
It’s called ADHD and I’m here for it!
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2023 at 8:20 pm #1205269925Todd Field said TAR was for a man. TAR was in development hell for several years. After several years, he thought of Cate Blanchett and he made specific changes to adapt the lead to Cate Blanchett. So, I doubt he will think of an Asian or Black woman as the lead of his movie
Could you send me where this information was reported? Todd Field has mentioned several times that he wrote the character with Cate Blanchett in mind, I don’t know why he would lie about that, and this is what he told The Hollywood Reporter about the making of the film:
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“Several high-profile projects came his way in the intervening years, including the possibility of directing a political thriller written by Joan Didion, but they fell apart. Nor did he have interest in directing a studio tentpole based on superheroes or other IP.
Then, when the pandemic struck, Focus told him he could write anything he wanted. “I sat down and started writing. It was a sprint, to be honest with you. It came together in about 12 weeks,” he says. “The studio gave me no notes and let me do exactly what I wanted.”January 27, 2023 at 5:14 am #1205270216All you have to do is Google “Tar was written for a man” and you’ll find multiple articles where Cate backs that. I haven’t seen where Todd Field came forward yet and said he was lying about it being written for Cate, but why would Cate lie? He deceived her simps thinking it was all for her and her alone
What Blanchett said on Actors on Actors was: “When Todd was thinking about it, ‘Tár’ was originally for a male role. And in a way because the film is like a meditation on power you would’ve had a much less nuanced examination of that if you had [a man] — because we understand what the corruption of male power looks like […] but we need to unpick what power is itself.”
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On an episode of IndieWire’s Filmmaking Toolkit, Field admitted that when working on his initial drafts of “Tár” during the height of the pandemic, Blanchett felt like the only choice for the character. “I had no backup plan”.
Which means the movie wasn’t written years ago like that person said, and that it didn’t spend years in production hell. Cate says that Field thought about making the main character a man, but never confirmed whether or not he wrote it from that perspective, so they’re just making assumptions that he adapted the script for her afterwards rather than deciding it was going to be a woman before starting to write it.January 27, 2023 at 7:31 am #1205270355Another problem is a lot of producers think most black actors and black actresses are “not bankable”. I suppose that’s changing but some people in Hollywood still believe that theory
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 27, 2023 at 8:14 am #1205270425I see what you did there. So now you want to open up the can of worms that is the debate whether Cleopatra was black or not? Gal Gadot has you covered honey.
Once gal bombs in the role and a new movie has to be made to wipe that performance off the map, then we can debate who should be playing her
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 27, 2023 at 8:15 am #1205270427Another problem is a lot of producers think most black actors and black actresses are “not bankable”. I suppose that’s changing but some people in Hollywood still believe that theory
And, women in general.
Very tunnel vision.ReplyCopy URLThe Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteJanuary 27, 2023 at 2:01 pm #1205270984Once gal bombs in the role and a new movie has to be made to wipe that performance off the map, then we can debate who should be playing her
I doubt Gadot makes that. WBD fired both recently: Gal Gadot and Patty Jenkins. Sony still has its own Cleopatra movie. I think Sony will make a Cleopatra movie with other actress and other director. Sony already wasted the last 15 years in their Cleopatra project: Angelina Jolie, Ridley Scott, Jim Cameron, David Fincher, Clint Eastwood, Martin Scorsese
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 27, 2023 at 2:28 pm #1205271047I doubt Gadot makes that. WBD fired both recently: Gal Gadot and Patty Jenkins. Sony still has its own Cleopatra movie. I think Sony will make a Cleopatra movie with other actress and other director. Sony already wasted the last 15 years in their Cleopatra project: Angelina Jolie, Ridley Scott, Jim Cameron, David Fincher, Clint Eastwood, Martin Scorsese
I don’t think Cleopatra was black. In those days, Egypt was multiracial like New York or Los Angeles today. I think Cleopatra was multiracial or biracial
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 27, 2023 at 2:30 pm #1205271053Screw Cleopatra’s nasty a**. Give us a Nefertiti biopic instead. Now that WAS a Black queen.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 27, 2023 at 10:12 pm #1205271875I don’t think Cleopatra was black. In those days, Egypt was multiracial like New York or Los Angeles today. I think Cleopatra was multiracial or biracial
I think there’s some difference between the historical Cleopatra (who had Greek roots) and Shakespeare’s Cleopatra, whom as the ruler of a land about to be annexed by a European empire, can be read as a WOC, which many stage productions have done.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 28, 2023 at 3:20 pm #1205272828I think there’s some difference between the historical Cleopatra (who had Greek roots) and Shakespeare’s Cleopatra, whom as the ruler of a land about to be annexed by a European empire, can be read as a WOC, which many stage productions have done.
Greek roots are not black
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 28, 2023 at 3:20 pm #1205272830I hate when black people say the Cleopatra was black. She was not black and I’m tired of black people lying to themselves about that. I feel like the odd black person out because I don’t want to pretend.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 28, 2023 at 3:24 pm #1205272836I hate when black people say the Cleopatra was black. She was not black and I’m tired of black people lying to themselves about that. I feel like the odd black person out because I don’t want to pretend.
I agree. Greek roots are not black. Most Greek people look like Spaniards and Italians and Portuguese: Antonio Banderas, Cristiano Ronaldo, etc….
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 28, 2023 at 3:31 pm #1205272852Another problem is a lot of producers think most black actors and black actresses are “not bankable”. I suppose that’s changing but some people in Hollywood still believe that theory
I said this on the other thread – it is probably not an accident that multiple female POC led films have gone straight to streaming/TV movie despite no evidence those performers aren’t bankable. If films aren’t even submitted it makes it very hard to compete.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 28, 2023 at 7:23 pm #1205273064Hollywood acts “surprised” every time a black led film does well while they lose money promoting the next starlet no one cares about, like Margot Robbie.
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