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    LOL! Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself? This race ended when Close beat Colman and Gaga at the SAG Awards! The BAFTA win was expected for Colman. It was all down to the SAG and Close won, so this puppy is done.

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    LOL! Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself? This race ended when Close beat Colman and Gaga at the SAG Awards! The BAFTA win was expected for Colman. It was all down to the SAG and Close won, so this puppy is done.

    See yah on Feb 24 🙂

    Dana S.
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    Should we call a doctor?

    The doctor won’t help here.

    Dana S.
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    Shallow losing both Record snd Song of the year at the Grammys is a disgrace.

    So Gaga lost everything at the Grammys?

    Dana S.
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    Nope she won 3. Two for Shallow and 1 for Joanne. She lost the major ones though, the ones she was predicted to also win.

    Ah, ok, thanks. Well, then she already won GG, CC and now 2 Grammys for Shallow. She also won BAFTA for ASIB’s Music. I mean she is probably 99,9 % winning Oscar for Song now.

    Dana Rimons
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    Ah, ok, thanks. Well, then she already won GG, CC and now 2 Grammys for Shallow. She also won BAFTA for ASIB’s Music. I mean she is probably 99,9 % winning Oscar for Song now.

    At least she’s winning an Oscar.

    Glenn Close can’t relate.

    Lil Tony
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    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Gaga is so underrated. I don’t know what top men in the industry have against her. Even the Grammys couldn’t give her a general field win. Maybe they need to be reminded that Gaga is the most innovative artist of our time. The most versatile artist working today.</p>
     

    If the things were done free and fair, Gaga would be winning best actress everywhere and Shallow would have won song of the year.

     

     

    Fuck them

    I don't know who to STAN yet

    SHT L
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    Colman has many reasons why she can win. She’s in a Best Picture/Best Director/Best Screenplay/Best Editing/etc. nominated film. The movie garnered 9 nominations. That’s a huge amount of support. Although one can argue BAFTA winner Emmanuelle Riva was also in a Best Picture/Best Director nominated film, those nominations seemed like passion picks as opposed to full Academy acceptance. Plus Jennifer Lawrence was a hot young thing coming off her second nomination, won some critics’ awards (not the most but enough) and Hollywood saw her as a future name to put in their blockbusters. And her film got a butt-load of nominations too indicating it was one of the stronger Best Pic nominees and looked to be in the running for some awards even if it ended up going home empty handed outside of Lawrence’s win.

    With Gaga losing standing as an alternate to Close, Academy members now have a true alternative, as Sasha said. I still don’t completely buy people not caring about Close or the comparisons that she’s like the ugly girl in school who people pass over all the time. Someone with her career and amount of awards outside Oscar isn’t considered that. Nor do I think one anecdote can apply to a membership in the thousands. We had a lot of “SAG members” who talked to other SAG members who said Close was going to lose.

    BAFTA in itself is not enough to create Oscar winners, but they are a sizable portion of the Academy and with the Aussie Academy who also have some overlap with the Academy, there’s clearly support for Colman. Those are just facts.

    Colman is coming at a time where they’re creating more work for women of her age and she’s going to be starring in one of Netflix’s biggest television hits, The Crown. Giving her an Oscar will be in the best interests of many Academy members.

    Colman actually gives a performance that is worthy of an award and it will be a performance that will age well and Academy members can feel confident won’t be looked on as a “bad pick” or one that happened due to “hype” at the time.

    With all that said, Close also has a strong chance of winning. I don’t think people realize what a big deal it was that Close got all these precursor nominations in this loaded and congested field with The Wife as the vehicle. This is not a comment on the quality of the film which I felt is underrated. This is more due to the fact that the movie is NOT the typical movie that gets awards attention nor does Close’s performance. Awards tend to go for showy and big with some nods to perceived subtlety but not true subtlety. Close even acknowledged in an interview that “Joan Castleman” was not really an Oscar-bait role. I think if Close some how pulls off a win, it will be a victory with many layers including rewarding a performance that often does not get adequately awarded by these bodies.

    The fact that despite her early losses at AACTA and Gotham, she STILL received a nomination over the likes of Melissa McCarthy and other actresses in indie films who were also campaigning and trying to get a nomination. She was not ignored by the Golden Globes for that film even though they could have easily passed her over for someone else in a showier role. Further, she actually WON when it seemed her awards path was going to die there and she’d be lucky to get an Oscar nomination. Now it’s clear Close was always a big contender who has a lot of silent support.

    She won SAG-AFTRA, a wholly populous group with populous taste that awarded Black Panther Best Ensemble. That’s a whole lot of peer support for a movie and role like this. The Wife as a film does not nearly have the awards support as the other films that her nominees are in and yet she finds herself at least a co-favorite garnering hardware for this performance. Close herself with her performance made it happen against huge ass odds against her and multi-million dollar campaigning for other nominees. To me, that shows there’s certainly some passion existing for her to win.

    People on social media have been catching up with The Wife and have been writing excellent things about it. It may not be enough, but people are realizing the unknown Glenn Close movie actually contains a masterful performance. Some people write as if they were reminded what excellent film acting looks like when they saw Close’s movie because many of them were not prepared to be impressed by a movie like that and yet came away astonished. This gives her performance real credibility and maybe Academy Award members who caught up with the film would come to the same conclusion.

    In the end, I’d be very happy with either woman winning. Even if Close loses, one can’t say she didn’t put up a good fight here. If anything, this may be the closest she came to winning an Oscar. Cher had all the goodwill and narrative (of being overdue after losing for Silkwood and getting snubbed for Mask and did the talk show overdrive and even had an album release) when Close went up against her in Fatal Attraction. All the critics went for Holly Hunter and Jodie Foster was a child star who proved herself as an adult actress coming back after a strange scandal involving a stalker who wanted to impress her by shooting Ronald Reagan the year she was up for Dangerous Liasons. Here, she’s fighting another uphill battle. First from a pop superstar in a financially successful film with a multi-million dollar campaign behind it that made it no secret it wanted to win all the Oscars and another film with major support behind it.

    Close may lose, but if she somehow pulls off a win, I will recognize it for the incredible feat that it is.

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    Imo This Is America is a worthy SOTY winner. Shallow was robbed ROTY tho.

    Lagg
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    At least this Lil Tony didn’t take this race so serious and become an anti-Close stan.

    SHT L
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    At least this Lil Tony didn’t take this race so serious and become an anti-Close stan.

    This is why I respect Lil Tony. He was a true ride-or-die Gaga stan and did not deviate from that narrative or jump to another bandwagon out of spite.

    Dana S.
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    At least this Lil Tony didn’t take this race so serious and become an anti-Close stan.

    I still don’t see a point in becoming anti-Close stan. Like….why?

    Lagg
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    I still don’t see a point in becoming anti-Close stan. Like….why?

    Me too. I don’t get it. Seems personal. Maybe these people are projecting personal issues on Glenn?

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    See yah on Feb 24

    When you ultimately vanish to save yourself of embarrassment?

    Lil Tony
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    Imo This Is America is a worthy SOTY winner. Shallow was robbed ROTY tho.

    whether SOTY or ROTY, general field remains general. At least you agree that Shallow deserved better

    I don't know who to STAN yet

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