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  • Joe Burns
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    I can guarantee you that Emmanuelle Riva will not be nominated again. She passed away just over a year ago (around the same time as John Hurt).

    Yeah I found that out about three hours ago when I looked her up on Google- too bad.

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    I don’t even care anymore because now I’m excited about the fantasy idea that will never happen of Glenn Close doing a film version of the Kander/Ebb musical adaptation of the dark play The Visit where she’d play an old wealthy lady going back to her poor village and offering the town her money to bring them out of poverty on the condition that they put her old fiance who jilted her to death. Some of those musical numbers are delicious with singing and dancing. Chita Rivera did it on Broadway (8 shows a week!) at the age of 80. I’d love to see Close do something like that. That production was deliciously dark and strange and amazing.

    That would need a major rewrite. I saw a developmental performance then saw it on broadway. It was a vehicle for Chita. I think it’s a little weird for the film folks but you never know. The lady in the lead is supposed to be a Romani though…and Glenn is a little blonde haired and blue eyed.

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    This is the point many people are refusing to see. This was the moment if they wanted/didn’t have anything against her with an Oscar.

    If Gaga had won, we could say “She won thanks to all the media hype”, because shit like that happens. It would be disrespectful, but it would be about Gaga being forced down everyone’s throats, not exactly an anti-Close conspiracy. But someone like Colman(british, arguably supporting, unknown outside of UK, first time nominee and 40+ years old) wouldn’t have won against Winslet or Moore, so it’s obvious they deliberately denied Close an award because they dislike her or simply don’t care.

    Each best picture nominee won awards. When Green Book got screenplay I knew Olivia had it. They weren’t going to let The Favourite walk away empty handed. That’s a huge reason Olivia won. Get Glenn a Daldry type of film.

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    That would need a major rewrite. I saw a developmental performance then saw it on broadway. It was a vehicle for Chita. I think it’s a little weird for the film folks but you never know. The lady in the lead is supposed to be a Romani though…and Glenn is a little blonde haired and blue eyed.

    They could retool it to make it less culture specific, but yeah, the optics wouldn’t work.

    If Glenn Close can’t win Oscar because male members of Academy don’t like her male-threatening roles, I doubt this kind of role will please them.

    I was thinking beyond the golden dildo, and just focusing on good projects for Close. I think that would be a killer role for her no matter if she gets an award or not.

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    I was thinking beyond the golden dildo, and just focusing on good projects for Close. I think that would be a killer role for her no matter if she gets an award or not.

    I think at this stage getting a competitive Oscar might be a worthy cause.

    A play I adored was 33 Variations. I know a film star originated the role on broadway (Jane Fonda and she was very good) but it’s a reasonable fit for Close if Jane Fonda doesn’t want to do it. It’s Oscar baity too. It’s about a musicologist racing against time as she is struggling with ALS to interpret Beethoven’s 33 variations. The script uses parallels between the loss of her abilities and his loss of hearing. It’s a terrific play and would be great on screen.

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    And it’s about an artist struggling. We know how much Oscar voters love that. It’s either monarchs or artists of some sort.

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    And it’s about an artist struggling. We know how much Oscar voters love that. It’s either monarchs or artists of some sort.

    Did you see the play? I’m glad someone else has heard of it. I actually think it might be even better as a film. And Katherine, the lead, is a sympathetic character.

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    Each best picture nominee won awards. When Green Book got screenplay I knew Olivia had it. They weren’t going to let The Favourite walk away empty handed. That’s a huge reason Olivia won.

    Hmm, I’m not convinced by that reasoning. It’s pretty clear the Academy collectively gives zero fucks about ensuring every Best Picture nominee a win, and when they do it’s mostly luck. The Favourite was in serious danger of going 0 for 10 like American Hustle, True Grit and Gangs of New York before it. While all of those films had their detractors the problem was more that they didn’t have a strong enough footing in any individual category, with votes from admirers being spread across different categories. Same with The Favourite, except that it was fortunate enough to have an astonishing lead performance that rose above an overdue narrative. But this wasn’t for the sake of awarding the film period.

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    I think wealth spreading helped a little but really a lot of it came from merit- She is damn good in The Favourite.

    Anybody else get the impression that Frances was unhappy about Colman’s win? I don’t think she was joking earlier when she said to get right to it before going through the clips. I think she was nervous and wanted to see if Glenn would have won or not.

    SHT L
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    I think wealth spreading helped a little but really a lot of it came from merit- She is damn good in The Favourite. Anybody else get the impression that Frances was unhappy about Colman’s win? I don’t think she was joking earlier when she said to get right to it before going through the clips. I think she was nervous and wanted to see if Glenn would have won or not.

    Apparently, someone said Frances winked at Glenn while walking to the stage, but I don’t know how anybody could know that. I do think Frances probably like a lot of people wanted to see Glenn get her due while holding nothing against Colman’s win. I think McDormand handled that like a real pro with keeping a totally even tone from before opening to announcement. Sam Rockwell also kept it together.

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    I would watch the hell out of Paul Schrader’s movie starring Glenn Close. Make it happen.

    Glenn Close

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    Each best picture nominee won awards. When Green Book got screenplay I knew Olivia had it. They weren’t going to let The Favourite walk away empty handed. That’s a huge reason Olivia won. Get Glenn a Daldry type of film.

     

    If you say so. The Favourite had TEN nominations…

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    Each best picture nominee won awards. When Green Book got screenplay I knew Olivia had it. They weren’t going to let The Favourite walk away empty handed. That’s a huge reason Olivia won. Get Glenn a Daldry type of film.

    Favourite could have easily left empty-handed, they couldn’t care less. They’ve done it with numerous multiple-nominated films already.

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    Anybody else get the impression that Frances was unhappy about Colman’s win? I don’t think she was joking earlier when she said to get right to it before going through the clips. I think she was nervous and wanted to see if Glenn would have won or not.

    Codswallop.

    That’s just Frances.

     

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    I would watch the hell out of Paul Schrader’s movie starring Glenn Close. Make it happen.

    Glenn Close

    Schrader directing Sunset?? She said she met with a writer and director.

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