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Amy lost and still won the Oscar, but it lost to a Matthew Heineman movie so I don’t think it’s a proper example.
It lost because it was an archival documentary, not because Heineman is some DGA magnet. Directors like to see their documentaries more directed than that. This is what concerns me about My Octopus Teacher. The DGA tends to go for on-the-ground stuff like the Heineman movies or The Square. My Octopus Teacher might just be too small and controlled and not hectic enough. They have admittedly been going in a different direction the last two years though. American Factory was far enough ahead of The Cave in the Oscar race to compensate (and I predicted as such) and that might be the same case here, but the one that I still cannot really account for and which gives me hesitation is Three Identical Strangers over Free Solo. The former was an archival documentary, whereas the latter had firsthand action and the co-director was even a character, not to mention that it had better reviews and was more widely seen to boot. It just defied all logic. The only thing that I can come up with is a bias against documentaries that take place in the natural world that has not had much chance to manifest. But it certainly could manifest with how structurally similar My Octopus Teacher is, as far as documentaries go, even with the filmmaker being such a character in the story. So I have had Boys State and am about to watch it to judge whether it is close enough to the kind of stuff that the DGA normally likes in this category or if it too is too much in a controlled environment without a danger element.
I ultimately settled on My Octopus Teacher for BAFTA, but it was a coin toss and if it loses to Collective and loses at DGA, it will be delicious to see the bandwagon jumpers losing it over whether it can still win the Oscar.
ReplyCopy URLHilarious. Did not consider that as a possibility. Maybe people are onto something predicting it at ASC. I had thought that its frontrunner position was ridiculous since the only other nominees in the category are a black-and-white silent film and a film literally titled “Notturno”. Both of those are cinematography bait.
ReplyCopy URLTime is being robbed. It’s one of the best films of this year.
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Time was only shortlisted due to the pressure of PC and the BLM propaganda
It tries to manipulate the facts of the case and attempts to pass off two creeps as ”victims”of the justice system when in reality they were just a pair of lying, narcissistic scumbags
ReplyCopy URLMoving Collective down to 4th. It wasn’t nominated at any guilds, unlike Honeyland, and just lost in one of the few precursors it was nominated for. Honeyland also had a bunch of nominations and wins at Critics Choice Documentary Awards, unlike Collective.
Time has the BLM narrative and Crip Camp has the Obamas. Collective don’t have any of those things
I thought the DGA loss would be bad, but this BAFTA win for My Octopus Teacher actually sealed its status as the frontrunner by miles from the second place, Crip Camp.
ReplyCopy URLMy Octopus Teacher is winning this.
Funny it went from “My Octopus Teacher would surely not be nominated” for some to being the frontrunner at Oscars.
Don’t despise a documentary just because it’s a nature/science one. Collective and Welcome to Chechnya may have serious subjects, but I don’t think they’re good in direction and film quality. The latter even failed to get nominated as I expected. I’m fine with Time or Crip Camp taking this, tho.
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Moving Collective down to 4th. It wasn’t nominated at any guilds, unlike Honeyland, and just lost in one of the few precursors it was nominated for. Honeyland also had a bunch of nominations and wins at Critics Choice Documentary Awards, unlike Collective.
Yes but Collective also has an international feature nomination, which is huge.
Still, sadly, MOP will be winning ‘the best documentary of all the documentaries in 2020’ prize which is insane.
ReplyCopy URLBill Hader and Barry in everything (2 babka)
The Great - Elle Fanning, Nicholas Hoult and comedy writing and directingSeverance in drama series, writing, Adam Scott for best actor, Ben Stiller for drama directing, and the whole cast in supporting.
The Truffle Hunters wins DGA over My Octopus Teacher. Free Solo all over again.
Yep. MOT is easily the most accessible and crowdpleasing documentary of the nominees, just like Free Solo was, which is why it’s winning. I did enjoy it quite a bit, so I would be fine with it winning the Oscar, though Time and Collective would be better choices.
ReplyCopy URLdon’t u guys think that MOT suffers from that deplorable guy at the centre of it, and it could prevent a lot of people (esp women) from voting for it? I’ve read and seen numerous takedowns of this film (my fave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whb4unrhy44&ab_channel=MaggieMaeFish) and no other film seems to generate so much outright criticism…
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