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February 4, 2019 at 8:37 pm #1202761738
I do have a certain person on ignore and have for a long time, but to clarify people who dismiss The Hate U Give, as visceral and raw it was on an emotional level, as well-constructed as each and every single one of the storylines were in how they were scripted with the dialogue and in how they paid off in the end, anyone who dares compare it to that schmaltzy mess The Fault in Our Stars and one of my most hated movies of all time The Perks of Being a Wallflower, either hasn’t seen THUG or went into it with their mind made up already about what it was. Or they are seriously lacking in racial sensitivity. Or they have elitist tastes. Or… I could keep going, but I don’t have the energy.
Everyone needs to watch The Hate U Give. It was dismissed as some YA thing before it even got released I think. It tackled racism in such a no-holds barred way that white liberal snobs didn’t know what to make of it. Comparing it to those other 2 films I mentioned demonstrate is not only clearly inaccurate but genuinely offensive. I wish Perks had dived deep into child molestation and homophobia rather than the cardboard cookie-cutter treatment it gave those issues. I wish Fault had created more compelling and memorable characters that didn’t feel like cliches in order to make us have more empathy for people with cancer. By the way, if it took anyone watching a fictional movie to empathize with cancer victims and survivors, that person is an asshole in my book. The Hate U Give was THE most important film of 2018 not merely in tackling issues but in the brutally honest way it tackled them. The performances, and dialogue, the character arcs, everything worked like cinematic poetry in a film our world truly needed in this era like no other film was culturally needed this year.
Something else that was needed, me getting all of that out of my system. It is that mentality that made critics groups and pundits so rapidly dismiss the film because it lacked snob appeal and prestige merely due to it being based on a freaking YA novel. It wasn’t Twilight for freak’s sake people! It wasn’t a comedy, it wasn’t sci-fi, genre bias should have played no role here, but it did, and combined with the fact the movie was so uncannily realistic with every detail of the narrative made it too uncomfortable for white liberal snobs to sit through and reward at the end of the year. Just because a book isn’t aimed at adults doesn’t mean it or the movie that came of it do not handle relevant topics in a mature and gripping manner, more so than most other fictional stories to deal with such hot-button topics. Sucks but that’s the cold hard truth.February 4, 2019 at 9:08 pm #1202761759
Fairly certain you (Teridax) have me on “ignore,”
I do have a certain person on ignore and have for a long time, but to clarify
Wait what. If you have this person on ignore how were you able to respond like this? Just curious as I have no one on ignore (atm).February 4, 2019 at 9:10 pm #1202761760
Oh, Christ, Teridax. Here we go again!
I did not even touch on quality! I was comparing the respective receptions of the three films. YA fare is ignored precisely because it is YA fare, regardless of quality; that is what I said, and apparently what you misinterpreted.February 4, 2019 at 9:15 pm #1202761761
So… can Roma split between Best Picture and Best Foreign Film?
I think the logic says if Roma is winning BP then should take FLF too.
But… I was thinking: the criteria for both categories is really the same. Could this make some voters pick Roma on the main race but then get to FLF category on their ballots and say “ok, so I have Roma for Picture, I’m gonna pick (…) cause I loved that film too and want to reward it” or something?
There’s clearly a lot of love for Cold War, which made it into BD and Cinematography, Never Look Away got Cinematography and Shoplifters won at Cannes with a predominantly Hollywood-esque jury.
Many who liked but not loved Roma could vote for it only on FLF. So maybe we are before a different kind of vote splitting. There are a lot of questions I have about this ‘cause I guess is the first time a FLF nominee really, really has a chance at BP too.February 7, 2019 at 5:10 pm #1202764675
A few days ago, I rewatched Roma for a third time. It’s got great rewatch value. I even feel like watching it again for a fourth time!February 7, 2019 at 5:19 pm #1202764681
My feeling is that Roma will get enough first place votes and enough 2-4 place votes to win the Oscar for BP, mainly because I don’t see any one of the other films having enough passion to pull it over the finish line. What will help Roma is that the passion is split fairly evenly among the other 7 BP nominees (some a bit more than others). In other words, there isn’t enough consensus for any of the 8 nominees this year and there will be passion votes for all of them (more or less). I am not as confident with this category as I am with Best Director or Best Original Song, but I am feeling fairly confident nonetheless.February 7, 2019 at 6:05 pm #1202764717
Wait what. If you have this person on ignore how were you able to respond like this? Just curious as I have no one on ignore (atm).
Ignored users’ posts will still be previewed on the sidebar, so he probably saw the blurb and went to the poster’s profile to read the whole comment.February 7, 2019 at 6:29 pm #1202764733
Roma will get A LOT of last places, the frontrunner position always hurt films with preferential ballot.It may even lose to Green Book or The Favourite.February 8, 2019 at 4:23 am #1202764981
I am thinking about the fact that the BP winner this year no matter which film wins will get between 2-4 Oscars. If Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody or Roma wins they could potentially win 4 Oscars; BlacKkKlansman, The Favourite, Green Book, A Star is Born and Vice could potentially only win 2 Oscars, or if Beale Street were to win Adapted Screenplay and BlacKkKlansman won the preferential ballot, it would win only 1 Oscar! I think it’s going to be Roma winning 4 – a little over 2 weeks before we find out!February 8, 2019 at 4:47 am #1202764992
Out of all these 8 nominated movies no movie except The Favourite is even near Roma.Now that I have seen it 4 times it has entered my Top10 list of all time.What a genius Cuaron is.February 8, 2019 at 4:53 am #1202764996
I agree with this assertion to some degree, as I have encountered some who consider “Roma” as too much of a slow-burner.
However, I also think such individuals are a lot more in the minority as you may think in the arty-pretentious Academy of Motion Pictures. I think Roma’s undebatable artistic achievement will pillow it from falling victim to several last place spots on the BP ballot … irrespective of its slowing-moving first half.
Like, is one really gonna give “Roma” last place spot after giving Cuaron a vote for director … maybe a 4-5 spot at the worse case?!?!February 8, 2019 at 6:09 am #1202765078
With the amount of backlash Green Book has been receiving, I don’t see it winning, especially also because of the fact that it didn’t get that Director nomination. Roma is definitely the front runner, and I’m confident in predicting that it will win, but the other situation I could see would be The Favourite. It’s well-liked enough, and it could get enough top three votes to eventually push it over the finish line. However, I ultimately think it won’t beat out Roma, just because Roma is likely going to be consistently in that top three along with it, and Roma just has more passion. BlacKkKlansman maybe, but I think Lee has a better chance at Director than the movie itself.February 8, 2019 at 6:27 am #1202765089
Are people still talking about Spike Lee?… If anyone is going to upset and steal Cuaron’s Oscar will be the guy that against all odds the Academy gave surprise nods and not once or twice but three times (Dogtooth, The Lobster and The Favorite) and that is Yorgos Lanthinos.
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