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January 22, 2020 at 2:16 am #1203298257
1917 is the stronger film and if it does sweep techs I don’t see why Newman has a 0% chance lol. If he takes BAFTA I’m predicting him.
Is 1917 that popular? Imagine a voter knowing that Joker has the Globe. Imagine a voter knowing the composer is a woman. Imagine a voter even knows the composer has scored Chernobyl as well.
Or simply imagine a voter picking 1917 in cinematography, production design (maybe), sound mixing, sound editing (maybe), visual effects (maybe), maybe even make-up. They’re bound to look elsewhere in score.Some will, which will be enough to put Joker in the leading position. In the last few years, voters simply have been known to spread the wealth.January 22, 2020 at 3:29 am #1203298312
Is 1917 that popular? Imagine a voter knowing that Joker has the Globe. Imagine a voter knowing the composer is a woman. Imagine a voter even knows the composer has scored Chernobyl as well. Or simply imagine a voter picking 1917 in cinematography, production design (maybe), sound mixing, sound editing (maybe), visual effects (maybe), maybe even make-up.
1) Imagine a voter knowing Newman is in his 15th nomination
2) FvF is the frontrunner for sound mixing. Also 1917 isn’t winning make up. It is 3rd place as of nowJanuary 22, 2020 at 3:32 am #1203298317
I also have Joker winning Makeup for the same reason. 2 wins feels too low for a film with 11 nominations. In the last 35 years only one film (Lincoln) has earned 11+ nominations and won just 2 of them. 3 feels just right, especially since that’s the same amount of wins Black Panther got last year.
Joker winning make up would be laughable. It is a basic clown makeup. One can easily do it at home. Compare that to Charlize as Megyn Kelly and more importantly John Lithgow as Roger Ailes. He is barely recognizable.
Also, Irishman has 10 noms has ONE chance of win (screenplay). And even so, Gerwig might take it. So it is not absurd if Joker only gets 1 or 2 when Irishman is walking away empty-handedJanuary 22, 2020 at 5:55 am #1203298414
I am predicting 1917 will win but Joker could very well take it too. I honestly can’t remember the Joker score at all – I preferred the score to Ford v Ferrari, Downton Abbey, Marriage Story, Little Women and especially 1917. I am thinking there will be a sweep (7 Oscars) for 1917 and Thomas Newman will win as a result.
You can’t see past your obsession with 1917. Joker has won score for pretty much everything. Hildur has also given an impressive score-even people who don’t love the film admit the score is excellent. I’ve listened to the nominated scores and Joker’s manages to tell a story of its own. Hildur’s work in Chernobyl won’t hurt her chances either.
(For the record Parasite is my favorite film with Joker behind it. There’s some bias on my part. But I also think 1917 will get cinematography, sound editing and sound design. Editing is probably going to Parasite.)January 22, 2020 at 6:00 am #1203298420
I have no doubt whatsoever Hildur is taking this.January 22, 2020 at 6:49 am #1203298473
Little angels, I found 1917’s score truly awful and noisy. I wanted to take my ears off. It ruined the whole thing, which had very good technical achievements such as the direction and, of course, the magnificent cinematography. But its score was terrible.
Log off lol.January 22, 2020 at 10:18 am #1203298928
It’s not uncommon, I suppose, for a composing legend to win his only Oscar for a lesser work (Elmer Bernstein comes to mind) so I wouldn’t make a fuss if Newman won, though I found his score OK but nothing too special, and certainly nothing in the league of AMERICAN BEAUTY, ROAD TO PERDITION, and WALL-E (just to mention his notable previous noms alone).
But it’s hard for me to see JOKER not winning because the score–with all its atonalities, dirge-like percussive effects, and use in many of the wordless dramatic moments–really stands out and accentuates both Joker’s inner psychology as well as the tapestry of the Gotham wasteland, too (and this is from someone who didn’t care for the film much).
Plus, it’s incredibly rare that someone wins this category based on their name alone. In the last 25 years, I’d say it’s only happened once, for Ennio Morricone. And his competition only consisted of one Picture nominee (ironically, Newman) whereas 1917 is up against two others (including, ironically, LITTLE WOMEN, which Newman got his own nod for in 94). It’s possible, sure, and I certainly do hope he gets one one day, but I just don’t see it happening.
Then again, cousin Randy didn’t win his first Oscar until nomination #16 so his time may be close…January 22, 2020 at 10:25 am #1203298936
I will say, that like Marriage Story’s score, 1917’s score actually took me out of the story a few times. Some moments it just felt like the music was trying to manipulate me into feeling emotions I just wasn’t having. So I’m definitely rooting for Hildur to win.
That being said if 1917 takes the BAFTA I think it’ll probably win the Oscar.January 22, 2020 at 10:49 am #1203298981
I think it goes to Joker. Can’t imagine them giving this film 11 nominations and just one win for Phoenix. However, last year Colman’s Oscar was her film’s only award out of 10, so…
But Joker seems to be much more of a favorite than The Favorite ever was, considering it got all these nods, whereas The Favorite’s 10 nods were easy, logical and a given. So, I think Score not only deserves to win, but will be swept along with Phoenix for the film’s only wins.
Newman does have a huge shot, though, but his film can be rewarded in other places, Joker not so much.January 22, 2020 at 11:16 am #1203299027
People keep pointing out films with 10 nominations that only had one or no wins. I said 11+ nominations. Believe it or not 11 is a much more magical number than 10 at the Oscars: no film since The Color Purple had 11 nominations or more and less than 2 wins. Only Lincoln had 11 or more and just 2. All the others had 3 wins or more. So Joker is statistically guaranteed to win at least 2 Oscars, and will most likely win 3.
Parasite: Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Original Screenplay
Joker: Best Actor - Joaquin Phoenix
Jojo Rabbit: Best Adapted ScreenplayJanuary 22, 2020 at 11:19 am #1203299035
Newman loses again! To the Joker team.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Philip K Dick Blade RunnerJanuary 22, 2020 at 11:27 am #1203299055
Joker will win and it’s pretty much locked. Hildur has so much buzz around her at the moment that she is going to win the Grammy too for Chernobyl on top of the Oscar for JokerJanuary 22, 2020 at 11:54 am #1203299116
Joker winning make up would be laughable. It is a basic clown makeup. One can easily do it at home. Compare that to Charlize as Megyn Kelly and more importantly John Lithgow as Roger Ailes. He is barely recognizable. Also, Irishman has 10 noms has ONE chance of win (screenplay). And even so, Gerwig might take it. So it is not absurd if Joker only gets 1 or 2 when Irishman is walking away empty-handed
Sure, but who actually cares about Bombshell? Even if you like its makeup better than Joker’s, I can guarantee you people are going to remember the look they made for Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker, having the daunting task of making a design completely unique from the other iterations of the Joker, before they remember anything in Bombshell, in which similar stuff has been done time and time again. Sometimes, less is more.
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