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The Academy isn’t revoking Polanski’s Directing Oscar win for “The Pianist.”
Woody Allen isn’t an Academy member, so he won’t be the next one on the expelled list.May 3, 2018 at 2:18 pm #1202540028
I remember The Pianist Oscar campaign and it was wildly normal, not just in Hollywood, but on regular internet forum discussions among regular Joe schmoes and on TV and radio how there were actual discussions about whether Polanski should not lose an Oscar for something “unrelated” and how we have to separate the art from the artist or how if we can’t we have to weigh the merits of the artistic achievement against personal failings.
I also remember being young and listening to non-stop panel discussions on TV about “rape rape” and her seducing him and all that nonsense. That sort of talk was so normalized and women are often put in a position to defend their actions when they report such assaults.
Those were legitimate discussions everyone, not just hypocritical Hollywood, was having. The fact that we’re in a place now where he’s finally expelled and people are no doubt thinking that anybody who is accused of raping a thirteen year-old girl and then FLEES the country to escape prosecution should not be winning any types of awards no matter if the awards have nothing to do with one’s personal actions is the work of many hard-working people who have done their part to change the narrative and add perspectives often ignored and shushed.
I think people don’t realize how much work it took to change the whole effing narrative on sexual assault against women (yes even thirteen year-olds) and why we still have such a long way to go.
In Criminology many years ago, I learned just how underreported rape cases are AND how often many of them are voluntarily dismissed after the initial investigation. There’s a huge reason for that and one that ties into why it took so long for the Academy to expel Polanski.
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I think pariah status is already happening. It’ll just take time when the current teenage and twenty-somethings in Hollywood become the thirty-to-sixty-year-olds that hold more sway in the power side of things.May 3, 2018 at 2:47 pm #1202540049This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.May 3, 2018 at 6:58 pm #1202540208
SHOOK!!! FYIs: The Academy isn’t revoking Polanski’s Directing Oscar win for “The Pianist.” Woody Allen isn’t an Academy member, so he won’t be the next one on the expelled list.
Is it even possible to revoke Oscar nominations/wins for reasons other than technicalities regarding eligibility rules?May 3, 2018 at 7:06 pm #1202540212
I disagree wholeheartedly with revoking wins. Disgraced nominees and winners who reject their statuette for better and worse the decision of the voters stands.May 3, 2018 at 7:07 pm #1202540214This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.May 3, 2018 at 8:17 pm #1202540243
It seems like it would be a record keeping nightmare if they started taking back nominations and awards from people. Just off the top of my head I can think of the case of Gig Young who is pretty much thought to have murdered his wife and then killed himself.
And these are just high profile winners. Think of all the tech nominees there have been over the years. I’m sure there are at least a few who have done illegal or immoral things.
(although on the other hand it would be interesting to see who the new winners or nominees would be. I wonder if Price Waterhouse keeps those records somewhere.)May 3, 2018 at 9:15 pm #1202540258This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.May 3, 2018 at 10:12 pm #1202540280
If the Academy wants to kick out the criminals, predators and perverts, that’s fine but revoking wins and nominations? I would be against that because that would be a slippery slope. Does every film that should qualify for awards have to be made by saintly perfect people? Of course not. Chinatown is still a great movie and deserved all those Oscar nominations and wins. I believe that. I also believe Roman Polanski should’ve gone to prison for raping that girl. It’s possible to believe in both.May 3, 2018 at 10:41 pm #1202540287
Good riddance. They still cant erase that standing ovation from history though.
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