December 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm #169826
In my opinion campaiging Channing Tatum as a lead performance in Foxcatcher is one of the biggest mistakes in Oscar campaign history. I believe if Sony Pictures Classics changed their minds to have Channing campagin as Supporting Actor he would score a nomination. Is it still possible for Sony Pictures Classics to do this?December 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm #169828
First off, welcome to Goldderby.
Second, I feel that would be weird, since it’s clearly Tatum’s story and he’s the dominant lead of the film. He certainly has the most character development. If anything, Carell is the one who rides the line between Lead and Supporting.December 19, 2014 at 12:31 pm #169829
^THIS. Also, welcome to the forums! 🙂December 19, 2014 at 12:33 pm #169830
I wouldn’t be surprised if they did try and change his category. I could see Tatum going to BAFTA with a Supporting Actor nomination. Last year, they gave Matt Damon, an equal lead in Behind The Candelabra, a supporting nod for the film (it got a cinematic release in the UK).
The reviews in the UK, from Cannes etc., are wholly positive for the film, and some at that point declared that it would be time to say the phrase ‘Academy Award Nominee Channing Tatum’. He’s got the support, and it wouldn’t be the first or last case of category ‘fraud’ at the Oscars.
Surely there can only be one LEAD Actor and/or Actress in a film. Carell is definitely locked in to the lead race. Tatum has the flexibility to go this way. And if he does, I would definitely place in him my top 5, ahead of the Duvall/Brolin possible battle for slot 5 in that race.December 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm #169831
I guess he could go Supporting. Why not, a handfull of other actors have done it just for awards purposes.
But what would be the point is my question. If there was passion/support for him in any category, he would have shown up at any of the awards/nominations that were handed out these past 3 weeks.
I say he should rather join the cast and promote/campaign the film to death. The buzz has died down, and the film needs resurgance.December 19, 2014 at 12:41 pm #169832
Surely there can only be one LEAD Actor and/or Actress in a film. Carell is definitely locked in to the lead race. Tatum has the flexibility to go this way. And if he does, I would definitely place in him my top 5, ahead of the Duvall/Brolin possible battle for slot 5 in that race.
Some obvious arguments against this assertion are AMADEUS, THE DRESSER, SLEUTH, BECKET, GIANT, and FROM HERE TO ETERNITY, all of which rightfully had shared lead actor nominations, despite half of them even being named after one of the title characters.
Channing is much more of a lead than supporting, IMHO. And if anything, I suspect the choice was in part because not only would him in supporting be category fraud, but might even siphon votes away from Ruffalo.December 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm #169833
I mean, it would be category fraud to the max, but it’s been done before. So why not? The best supporting actor winner is set in stone, and I think he’s the strongest performance out of the other frontrunners in each acting category (Moore, Keaton or Redmayne, and Arquette), but overall, the supporting actor category is fairly weak. We’ve got Duvall standing a chance to get in when his movie was bad, and his performance was nothing special, and Rufallo getting in when he didn’t do anything remotely nomination worthy.
I didn’t like Foxcatcher, but I though Tatum was terrific. It’s a shame that Rufallo is a shoe-in for a nomination and Carell stands a very good chance of still getting in when Tatum’s performance was lightyears better than theirs.December 19, 2014 at 2:13 pm #169834
hi Channing. I loved you in 21 jump street!December 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm #169835
He would probably easily get nominated in supporting, but it would be some really irking category fraud considering he’s the lead of the film and the one being campaigned as the lead is actually supporting, very obviously so imo.December 19, 2014 at 4:06 pm #169836
hi Channing. I loved you in 21 jump street!December 19, 2014 at 9:50 pm #169837
It might be worth a try. Of course it’d be a horrible category fraud, but he would have a much better chance. It worked for julia roberts last year after all.
On the other hand, the film is slowly dying due to lack of response and even Carell is in danger of getting shut out, so maybe its not worth the trouble…December 20, 2014 at 2:53 am #169838
if anything seeing as how the buzz has died down and the movie is not catching the box office on fire they need to correct the category fraud they’ve already committed! Steve Carell isn’t really the frontrunner anymore the way he was a couple months back. If he isnt expected to be winning the Lead Actor Oscar any more (which is clearly what the studio wanted by putting him in the wrong category in the first place) put him in supporting where he belongs and then campaign Tatum for lead where he belongs! at this point it couldn’t hurt because they aren’t getting the lead actor win that they wanted right?
I haven’t seen the movie yet but my hopes were pretty high for this one and I’m kind of bummed that the buzz is dying down…or dead.December 20, 2014 at 11:47 am #169839
^ It’s too late to campaign Carell for supporting now, people would get confused and he might end up not getting into either category. Haven’t seen the film yet so don’t know which one he truly belongs in.December 20, 2014 at 11:52 am #169840
^I think Carell could go supporting and it wouldn’t really look like fraud. Tatum? No. He’s the primary lead.December 20, 2014 at 12:06 pm #169841
Tatum is the primary lead, but he is second billed. Second- or lower-billed leads go supporting all the time. He was not campaigned as such because votes were going to be split in one of the two actor categories either way, so they opted against category fraud by default for Tatum.
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