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Can “Trumbo” go all the way at the Oscars??

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    Atypical
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    Well, awards are all subjective, so the reasons for voters going with the decisions they make aren’t known to anyone. It’s my view that Cranston will get major mileage out of “Breaking Bad” for many years to come. Having seen “Trumbo” now (and not to disparage the work he did here), I’m sticking with that assertion.

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    FreemanGriffin,  ”I continue to be flummoxed” by YOUR negativity toward ”The Revenant” and Leonardo DiCaprio. I’ve read dozens and dozens of your posts on various GoldDerby threads, and I wonder if your hatred has clouded your judgment. One, you admitted that you really resent the ”fanboy” attention the film and DiCaprio get. Two, you haven’t even SEEN the movie and say you probably won’t get to do so until January. I’m not sure that your anti-fanboy obsession is any different than the fanboy type.

    Just for the record, DiCaprio also won Best Actor from the Washington D.C. Film Critics, and during the past week of nominations from SAG, Golden Globes, Washington D.C., San Francisco, San Diego and Phoenix, he’s the only one to make the cut for every one of ’em. Over at GoldDerby.com, 21 out of 22 professional journalists are picking DiCaprio to win the Oscar … and they’ve SEEN all the films.

    Oh, well. Haters gotta hate. I’ll just skip your future posts because there’s no need for me to ”continue to be flummoxed.” Bye!

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    Cranston won for Breaking Bad because of Argo?  I have not heard that one before.  His performance was even ridiculed by Seth MacFarlane in the nominations announcement.  In the years since, I can scarcely think of anyone more beloved anecdotally than Bryan Cranston and Leonardo DiCaprio in the industry.  In the Netflix age, Breaking Bad seems to have a reach much greater reach across demographics than The Sopranos, which although delivered big ratings still seemed to be at a distance because of the HBO paywall and its lack of pulpy thrills.  Cranston did only win for the last two years, but that is only when Breaking Bad took off.  I am with Atypical on this one.  Jennifer Aniston and her romantic comedies are not comparable to what is hailed as the greatest performance on television in the best show on television ever.

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    ^You’re obviously letting your own emotions toward to the show speak for you, man.
    That ”best show ever” talk is hardly anything new. In every few year, something new and buzzy emerges and people suddenly turn their back to their previous favorite and start to worship the series du jour. It was Mad Men a few years ago. The Wire, Lost, The Sopranos before that.
    The only exception is that we’re teens living in 2010th and it’s no surprise that we’re more aware of the acclaim and attention Breaking Bad had been getting than something like I Love Lucy.

    No matter how superior and amazing Mad Men or Six Feet Under could be, those shows were never going to be as popular as Breaking Bad on social media(which apparently the thing your argument based upon, regarding your sentence about viewership numbers and your comparison with LeoDiCap) simply because of their subject matter.
    For most of the younger audience, the story of a softy chemistry teacher that transforms into a badass meth dealer after he’s learned he’s cancer; is, of course, much cooler and easier to associate with than a drama about a group of advertisers.
    But is there any reason to believe the same also would be valid for the industry? Advertising agency=Film industry.
    There is a reason why it took so long for BrBa to be get noticed by industry while the others I’ve stated above immediately got showered with awards once they came into the scene. It was just not up for their alley.

    Not to mention watching TV is not as cool as it used to be one or two decades ago when it was a tradition that all family comes together at evening after dinner and watch their favourite shows altogether.(We blame you the internet.) Empire is now the highest-rated show on the network and everyone’s talking about how big its viewership numbers are but when you compare its ratings to Desperate Housewives, Friends or Grey’s Anatomy had their in their prime, it looks quite amusing.
    Despite the HBO paywall and its lack of pulpy thrills The Sopranos’ and Sex and the City’s ratings were leagues better than anything has Breaking Bad done in its run.
    You can blame DVR and Netflix all you want, but those services came into the scene with also offering more different watching opportunities than ever and that caused the audience to not to stick with a few show and ignore others. For every Breaking Bad fan, there’s that Sherlock fan, True Detective fan, Game of Thrones fan. And all of them claims their shows are the best of the best. And I doubt industry gives more than a flying nun about any of those.

    And why is Bryan Cranston is the one who gets all the credit? Aaron Paul was basically the co-lead of that show throughout its entire run and arguably played a more likable character. And I can’t think of anyone who watches Breaking Bad could have thought ”Wow. What an amazing performance by Cranston. But Paul? Meh.” So how he did always miss on SAG for the sake of the likes of Patrick J.Adams?  And how did Breaking Bad lost Best Ensemble to Downton in its penultimate season if voters were really watching the show and fully aware of its awesomeness? It’s time to admit that SAG even loved Grey’s Anatomy more than this show. Two different individuals have been awarded from that ensemble (one being complete unknown) proving that they just don’t name check its lead under obligation.
    And where is Sandra Oh and Chandra Wilson right now?

    You guys are also giving way too much credit to AMPAS voters and especially to Acting branch where Adam Sandler and Jason Statham among the nominators. Those highest-paid brats on earth(literally) don’t have time to stay at home and watch tons of TV like us. So yes, being in a stupid rom-com whose only purpose to make enough money to buy a new car for Jennifer Aniston is indeed more visible for them than anything has ever been done on TV in the past year.
    The main problem with quality shows is that you can’t watch a random episode of them and can be amazed by it if you don’t know the backstory. Its complexness is what makes it so special for critics and passionate audience and you have to watch it from the start to appreciate that.
    The same cannot be said about Downton Abbey, Modern Family or Friends because they’re thrashy fun and doesn’t need your full attention. 
    I, for one, can’t imagine another acting voter, Jennifer Lopez on the sofa care enough to spending her 60 hours to binge-watch the entire show.

    All of them have probably heard of how cool it is and how good Cranston is in it, but even if someone like Meryl Streep couldn’t be name-checked for her %54-Metacritic-movie; no one can.
    Trumbo has mixed reviews, but it also tells the story of one of their own so maybe that would force some of them to watch their screeners. Playing Walter White might have helped him on picking up this role but if he gets nominated it will be because of his performance on here, and nothing else.

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    I think Trumbo is getting nowhere, Mirren and Cranston are goingo to be the actors that every year get GG, BAFTA and SAG nominations, but in the end they are left out by the Oscars.

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    ^ Don’t count on Trumbo making a dent at BAFTA. All these early February UK releases like Dallas Buyers Club and Her get squat despite being eligible.

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    Judging from reviews and the general overreactions from everyone who is willing to comment on this film, i was expecting a dire, horrendous mess of a film.
    Yet, the Trumbo i watched was a well written, hugely satisfying, and at times a surprisingly funny period biopic filled to the brim with amazing ensemble performances.

    Yes, it looks and feels like a run-of-the-mill  HBO Tv Movie. Yet by the end, you feel the pay-off. Apart from Bryan Cranston‘s knock out performance, the film delivers with an exemplary script that at times becomes preachy, yet holds you and educates.

    Helen Mirren was absent for so long of the film (appearing sporadically) that i wondered where her SAG nomination came from. But when she was on screen, she demanded screen time.  

    Standouts for me were:
    – The scene stealer Michael Stuhlbag (who is having quite the ressurgance with Steve Jobs and now Trumbo.)
    – Surprisingly Louis CK (who i have never had much of an opinion of as an actor.Just never found his humour or “äcting” appealing. His Standup comedy-ish TV show does not an actor make.) Yet here in a dramatic setting he was knock-out. LOVED HIM.
    Diane Lane. Even though she barely had anything to do. Was waiting for her scene, her powerful scene stealing moment, but it never came. She was but a pretty ornament for this whole film.

    The costumes were lovely to look at as well. The score was horrendous! To a point that it dragged some scenes down.

    In terms of awards, i can’t see this getting a Best Picture nomination. It had to have been refined and worked over a bit (polished) to make it better. I can see Adapted Screenplay, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actress and Best Costumes nominations happening. For sure.

     7/10 for me. I recommend it to anyone who is interested in Old Hollywood and how writing and the industry worked back than. Not a full behind the scenes look, but a satisfying glimpse, if you ask me.

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    Honestly, I didn’t feel anything special in it. I have not placed it among my predictions.

    But the industry loves so much films about themselves, about the industry… maybe it will make the cut.

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    Honestly, I didn’t feel anything special in it. I have not placed it among my predictions.

    But the industry loves so much films about themselves, about the industry… maybe it will make the cut.

    It is definitely making the cut. Not only because it is about Hollywood (and the Oscars), but it is a genuine well written and entertaining film. If you can get past the cheap look and weird, disjointed start of the film. When it gets going, it is on.

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    #199515

    Trumbo just leaked

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    Trumbo just leaked

    Bummer. That means a lot of people will miss the chance to be one of the youngest in a cinema of Grandpa’s laughing loudly at wry humour in the film. . 

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    If this wasn’t a “Hollywood” movie, it wouldn’t be getting a second glance. Cranston is good, but the rest isn’t even worth talking about.

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