January 15, 2017 at 5:34 pm #1201988552
I was going over my predictions and I noticed something that has been bugging me for the last few days. Most, if not all, of us don’t have Zootopia in our top 10 for Best Picture. I can’t help but wonder if we’re underestimating it here.
I went on Rotten Tomatoes and saw that Zootopia was the best reviewed film of the year. And by going back a few years, I saw that the best reviewed film on RT has ALWAYS made its way into the Best Picture category.
In 2009 – UP
In 2010 – Toy Story 3
In 2011 – The Artist
In 2012 – Argo
In 2013 – Gravity
In 2014 – Boyhood
In 2015 – Mad Max Fury Road
As you can see, two of these have been animated films. So what I am saying is, considering it’s the best reviewed film of the year, shouldn’t we be predicting Zootopia in our top 10? I understand that it may not make the cut if there are only 5, 6 or 7 nominees (although honestly, you never know), but what if it makes it in with 8, 9 or 10 nominees? We often underestimate animated films because they aren’t eligible for most guilds barring PGA, and so we actually aren’t able to assess just how strong they can be, but what if there is enough of a support for this film to make it into BP? I certainly think it’s more likely than Silence, Nocturnal Animals, Florence Foster Jenkins and even Fences.
What are your thoughts?January 15, 2017 at 6:02 pm #1201988568
Interesting stat. Hadnt really thought about that happeningRiley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJanuary 15, 2017 at 7:10 pm #1201988624
We have enough contenders to fill all of the slots and it missed PGA. Seems open and shut to me. Does not help that it is not as acclaimed as the acclaimed Pixar movies that made it in (or the ones that it did not) and it failed to sweep the critics’ awards for animated feature, losing about half to Kubo and the Two Strings.January 15, 2017 at 7:36 pm #1201988655
I don’t think so, unfortunately. I could actually see it landing a screenwriting nomination but, beyond this thread, it doesn’t seem like anybody is talking Zootopia up for a Picture nod.
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The Birth of a Nation has a better chance of snagging a BP nomination than Zootopia.January 15, 2017 at 9:44 pm #1201988722
If Disney had campaigned for it I think it absolutely could have made it in, but they seemed to just assume it didn’t have a chance so didn’t bother trying and now it’s too late. As you said it’s the most acclaimed movie of the year, it is a HUGE box office hit, and it actually has the semi-serious and extremely timely subject matter that we often say is what’s lacking to prevent animated movies from BP. at this point its probably too late, but I would bet money it could have happened if Disney played their cards differently.Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJanuary 16, 2017 at 5:01 am #1201988834
I would LOVE to! But not holding out hope after last year’s horrendous Inside Out snub.January 16, 2017 at 11:18 am #1201988983
Usually, animations that get nominated in best picture are usually a foregone conclusion by the time the nominations are announced. They are never the surprise nominee. And unlike Inside Out, Zootopia isn’t even a sure thing (not even likely) in screenplay, so I’d say picture just won’t happen at this point.January 16, 2017 at 11:23 am #1201988991
If Inside Out couldn’t make it, Zootopia won’t do it.January 16, 2017 at 11:35 am #1201989003
If Inside Out couldn’t make it, Zootopia won’t do it.
You know I was thinking about this only but there are three things I’d like to point out here –
1. I know it might be a stretch to predict it as one of the 8 films that most probably will be nominated, but we get to predict 10 here at Goldderby. And we never know, what if Inside Out was actually 9th or 10th last year? So in that respect, if somehow there are 9 or 10 nominees this year, Zootopia might be one of them.
2. I am basing this entire thread on what the most reviewed film on RT was each year (flawed as that may be), and Inside Out was number two last year. Zootopia is number one this year.
3. The competition last year was insanely strong, we had four films that were all in play for Best Picture (Mad Max, Spotlight, The Big Short, The Revenant), other films that were incredibly strong across the board (Room, Bridge of Spies, The Martian, Brooklyn) and then films who we all thought were in play for Best Picture (Star Wars, Straight Outta Compton, Carol).
This year barring the top 3 (Moonlight, Manchester, La La Land), and maybe Lion (owing to the guild/passion support it is), I don’t see any other film as being a lock for a BP nod. So I could totally see Inside Out making it into Best Picture this year.January 16, 2017 at 3:04 pm #1201989193
Nope. Inside Out had more hype and couldn’t do it. Zootopia is fighting to simply match it’s nomination haul.January 16, 2017 at 3:32 pm #1201989221
Inside Out would not have made it into Best Picture in a field of ten. It lost out on a PGA nom to Ex Machina and Straight Outta Compton. It also missed important categories like Sound Editing and Score; all of the Pixar films that either were nominated for Best Picture or might have been in an expanded field (e.g. Finding Nemo, WALL-E) were nominated in at least one of those two categories, and sometimes even Sound Mixing as well. Something was amiss with Inside Out compared to other Pixar films with similar acclaim. It was probably in last place in Original Screenplay to be frank, despite the GoldDerby odds persistently having it in the runner-up slot over three PGA nominees and one Oscar-baity Best Picture nominee with six nominations. Lol.
And no, I’m 99% certain that Zootopia won’t get into Best Picture either. I do have it in Original Screenplay now that two of the initial contenders have moved to Adapted and neither Jackie nor 20th Century Women seem to be happening.
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