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    Liza Minnelli

    Impossachievable

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    This is what happens when they win too soon. Alicia Vikander, Brie Larson, Adrian Brody etc were all rising stars when they won. If Arianna Debose wins the same thing will probably happen to her.

    To be fair, Ariana’s savior will be her Broadway resume.

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    Jean Dujardin

    To be fair to Jean Dujardin he really didn’t pursue an American career. He was and still is a big star in France which is where it counts for him.

    Also, I don’t think his English is too good.

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    Her slump didnt start right after her Oscar win to be exact. Passengers/X-Men Apocalypse is her turning point.

    Those were only minor hiccups especially considering the very next year she delivered what many people consider to be an oscar worthy performance in Mother (myself included) and then had Red Sparrow which was decently successful and then The Dark Phoenix which she only agreed to be in because Simon Kinberg was directing it. Just because she has not been in hit movie after hit movie, or any Oscar contending movies in the last few years, most certainly does not mean that her career has declined in any shape way or form.

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    That would be Glenda Jackson, I think.

    When you factor in her landmark stage and TV (Elizabeth R BBC series) career, Jackson is an understandable pick as one of our great actresses. Swank is… not.

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    That would be Glenda Jackson, I think.

    There isn’t anything random about Glenda Jackson, She is still working in film, television and stage, even winning a Tony award in 2018 and BAFTA TV Award for Best Best Actress as well as an international Emmy for Best Actress in 2019. She took time off from acting to go into politics between 1992 -2015 when she was elected
    Labour Party MP for Hempstead and Highgate. Miss Jackson’s career is doing fine thank you.

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    I absolutely have nothing against Glenda Jackson and I think her career is great, what I said is that I thought her two Oscar wins were random, especially the 2nd one. Again, I’m not even saying she wasn’t deserving of these wins, but based on the award’s tendencies, the competition etc her wins were surprising somehow.

    It's about the chaotic editing in Moulin Rouge!

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    Is it too early to say Renee had 2 career declines after an oscar win?

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    Is it too early to say Renee had 2 career declines after an oscar win?

    No. I have nothing against her, but it doesn’t look like her career is going anywhere after her win for Judy.

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    I absolutely have nothing against Glenda Jackson and I think her career is great, what I said is that I thought her two Oscar wins were random, especially the 2nd one.

    I was initially very surprised that she won in 1973 for “A Touch of Class” but I think there were several factors at play, including a desire to reward an actor viewed by many at the time as perhaps the greatest living SERIOUS actress for performing against type in what was essentially an adult rom-com opposite Walter Matthau. (She was nominated for a lead Oscar 3 times in 4 years during the early 70s.) Within the prior two years, she had been in both the influential “Sunday Bloody Sunday” and “Mary, Queen of Scots,” and starred in the landmark, revered TV miniseries, “Elizabeth R.” Moreover, during the prior decade she had acted in legendary RSC productions directed by Peter Hall (Rebecca’s father) of “Marat/Sade” and “Hamlet.” In 1973, with no single dominant film performance by a different nominee, in retrospect, it doesn’t seem all that strange that she prevailed in what was probably a widely divided vote involving Ellen Burstyn, Marsha Mason, Barbara Streisand and Joanne Woodward.

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    There is a reason why her career declined. It’s because she is one of the FEW black actors that spoke up for what she thought was wrong and got treated terribly by Hollywood afterwards. You see white actresses all the time speak up for what they think is wrong, and by no means got treated like an Outcast like Monique did. Monique can lay her head on her pillow every single night comfortably because she did what so few black actors actually have the balls to do, speak their mind and stand up for what the believe in and what they feel is true in their heart. She has tried for many, many, years to make all of us aware of how Ugly Hollywood truly is. She will always be one of my favorite pioneers in this business because that is what she truly is. Like Whoopi, she’s one of the ONLY Black Female Comedians to transition from standup to winning an Oscar. Her Oscar winning turn is hands down better than what any of these other ladies have gave us in the past decade. And that is the truth.

    Yes, I’m fully aware that Mo’Nique refused to “play the game” as you reference here, but her career suffered all the same because of that defiant stance. I applaud the principle behind it, but I’m saddened by the work we’ve missed out on.

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    I was initially very surprised that she won in 1973 for “A Touch of Class” but I think there were several factors at play, including a desire to reward an actor viewed by many at the time as perhaps the greatest living SERIOUS actress for performing against type in what was essentially an adult rom-com opposite Walter Matthau. (She was nominated for a lead Oscar 3 times in 4 years during the early 70s.) Within the prior two years, she had been in both the influential “Sunday Bloody Sunday” and “Mary, Queen of Scots,” and starred in the landmark, revered TV miniseries, “Elizabeth R.” Moreover, during the prior decade she had acted in legendary RSC productions directed by Peter Hall (Rebecca’s father) of “Marat/Sade” and “Hamlet.” In 1973, with no single dominant film performance by a different nominee, in retrospect, it doesn’t seem all that strange that she prevailed in what was probably a widely divided vote involving Ellen Burstyn, Marsha Mason, Barbara Streisand and Joanne Woodward.

    Jackson’s win now makes sense to me for many of the reasons you mentioned, but also because the math was in her favor. To my understanding, many at the time thought The Best Actress race was between Ellen Burstyn for ” The Exorcist ” and Barbra Streisand for ” The Way We Were ” with Marsha Mason for ” Cinderella Liberty ” as the dark horse. Ellen Burstyn wrote in her auto biography ” Lessons In Becoming Myself ” that esteemed Hollywood director George Cukor had launched an anti-Exorcist campaign. He sent out letters to the voting members of the Academy urging them not to vote for the vile film as it was an assault on Hollywood ( Cukor before his death has denied having ever done that but I believe Burstyn’s account ) No doubt many of the old guard followed Cukor’s urging. That left the divisive Streisand as the possible winner. Her talent is well liked by Hollywood but not necessarily her. The Oscars had just awarded a hooker role a couple years earlier via Jane Fonda in ” Klute ” so there went Marsha Mason’s votes for ” Cinderella Liberty “. That left Joanne Woodward for ” Summer Wishes,Winter Dreams ” and Glenda Jackson for ” A Touch Of Class ” Voters were impressed with Jackson’s comedic turn and the movie did very well at the box office giving her the edge. This is conjecture on my part, awarding a distinguished Brit in a classy rom-com would be a nice buttress to a possible Marlon Brando Best Actor win for the X-rated ” Last Tango In Paris ” ( highly unlikely considering his refusal of the Oscar the previous year for ” The Godfather ” ) Jackson had the court advantage for the win.

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    Is it too early to say Renee had 2 career declines after an oscar win?

    To be fair to her there has been a pandemic going on and she has said how she is intentionally being more selective and taking time off between roles (she also said she did this prior to Judy).

    She’s got a meaty leading part in a limited series in March (although it is on NBC…)

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    Mo’Nique. Terribly sad after giving one of the best supporting actress performances of ALL time in “Precious.”

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    She was blackballed by Lee Daniels for not thanking naither the studio nor him on her Oscar speech…in un regards to her Oscar acceptance speech, Mo’Nique tells The Hollywood Reporter that Precious director Lee Daniels said: “she didn’t thank the producers and she didn’t thank the studio. And that’s just not things that you do”.

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