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    For some reason, I do not care for Christian Bale. It is hard for me to not think about how much of a jackass he has acted towards set and crew in the past. For all I know that there are probably a lot of other actors that have acted an ass towards set and crew.

    It is important to treat everyone with respect regardless if you are in front or behind the camera because it is a team effort.

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    The funny thing about Bale is that I acknowledge his talent and even think he is a great actor but I also haven’t felt passionate enough about one of his performances like I have for some of his peers.

    I’d say he can keep his Oscar for THE FIGHTER but I’m not even sure if I’d nominate him for anything else. In fact, I wouldn’t have even nominated him for AMERICAN HUSTLE. However, I might have for AMERICAN PSYCHO.

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    Vice is one of the worst films of all time and the acting in it is horrible

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6ohUUzh9kk

    Skip to 21:26 here. He completely nails Cheney. I don’t think I’ve seen an actor get the subject of their biopic so right as Bale did in Vice. The acting is really good; it’s a McKay lol. Bale is insane, Rockwell is magnificent, Adams is solid, and Carell is pretty good.

    What makes you think it’s one of the worst films of all time?

    FYC: Aubrey Plaza (Black Bear)

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    Just look at clips of him in The Big Short, Vice, and American Psycho. Completely different people, and not just because of the makeup/weight. His brain is operating differently for each character.

    FYC: Aubrey Plaza (Black Bear)

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    For some reason, I do not care for Christian Bale. It is hard for me to not think about how much of a jackass he has acted towards set and crew in the past. For all I know that there are probably a lot of other actors that have acted an ass towards set and crew. It is important to treat everyone with respect regardless if you are in front or behind the camera because it is a team effort.

    To my knowledge there was only the one instance on the Terminator set, which he apologized for. Also, the crew member was being disruptive. Not an excuse for Bale’s behavior, but it’s understandable; the guy did interfere with his work. Are there other times he has been an ass?

    FYC: Aubrey Plaza (Black Bear)

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    What makes you think it’s one of the worst films of all time?

    There’s a way to do satire and be critical towards your subject matter without being completely disrespectful to your audience. The credits rolling in the middle of the film was just pathetic and everything was not nearly as smart or entertaining  as McKay thought it was. I admire the risk taking in the film but he basically pulled nothing off.

    As for the acting, Bale’s performance relies solely on the physical transformation and the accent. He’s trying so hard you can see every choice he makes. Im pretty sure Rockwell and Carrell mistook this film for an SNL skit. They’re completely parody. I guess Adams was fine but she didn’t have a whole lot to do.

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    I respect everyone’s opinion but I do feel it’s lazy to disregard Bale’s entire body of work due simply to his physical transformations. As I’ve said before there is more than just gaining weight to a real physical transformation, and for me Bale completely becomes these characters he is portraying. I do agree though that tonally, parts of Vice did not work for me. Especially that credits rolling scene.

    I think he deserved to win for The Fighter, and based on the lineup that year, also for Vice.

     

     

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    He rightfully won for The Fighter. Other than that he shouldn’t have won for anything else. I would have nominated him for American Psycho. 

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    There’s a way to do satire and be critical towards your subject matter without being completely disrespectful to your audience. The credits rolling in the middle of the film was just pathetic and everything was not nearly as smart or entertaining as McKay thought it was. I admire the risk taking in the film but he basically pulled nothing off. As for the acting, Bale’s performance relies solely on the physical transformation and the accent. He’s trying so hard you can see every choice he makes. Im pretty sure Rockwell and Carrell mistook this film for an SNL skit. They’re completely parody. I guess Adams was fine but she didn’t have a whole lot to do.

    The audience of McKay’s film certainly isn’t conservatives lol. McKay’s movies are watched by a pretty niche liberal group. I liked the credits rolling in the middle because it suggested, “Cheney’s career would’ve ended here were it not for this one phone call from George W Bush,” of course the phone call is what interrupted the credits.

    No, Bale’s acting was magnificent. I literally was in tears when he was holding his daughters because they all thought he was dying and I was like “WOW how am I crying after having disliked him my whole adult life and loathing him during this entire movie.” And yes, you can see the choices he makes…that’s kind of the point lol. Cheney was a calculated man, and one of the missions of the movie is to show how he took certain scenarios and was able to spin them in order for him to make a profit/gain unprecedented power/establish some sort of agenda.

    Rockwell is an exaggerated version of Bush for a reason: to suggest Bush was a dimwitted puppet and that Cheney was actually the one making the decisions.

    Their performances are all super lived in and in the moment. You might not like the style, but the film and its actors achieved exactly what they set out to do.

    FYC: Aubrey Plaza (Black Bear)

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    And yes, you can see the choices he makes…that’s kind of the point lol. Cheney was a calculated man, and one of the missions of the movie is to show how he took certain scenarios and was able to spin them in order for him to make a profit/gain unprecedented power/establish some sort of agenda.

    Erm this is twisting my words. This is not what I was talking about. You can see every decision he makes regarding his acting. It was a very calculated performance, which doesn’t have anything to do with Cheney being a calculated person.

    Rockwell is an exaggerated version of Bush for a reason: to suggest Bush was a dimwitted puppet and that Cheney was actually the one making the decisions.

    I think the ridiculous portrayal of Bush was mostly to mock the audience and make a farce out of the subject matter. It still doesn’t change the fact that it felt like Rockwell was in a totally different project mostly because he was unable to adapt to the satiric tone of the film and acted as if the whole thing was a parody.

     

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    Erm this is twisting my words. This is not what I was talking about. You can see every decision he makes regarding his acting. It was a very calculated performance, which doesn’t have anything to do with Cheney being a calculated person.

    Well then I totally disagree. I feel like he was completely in the moment. However, I posit that the actor making decisions is acting. Human beings make decisions. How do you act out the act of making a decision? The actor makes a decision.

    I think the ridiculous portrayal of Bush was mostly to mock the audience and make a farce out of the subject matter. It still doesn’t change the fact that it felt like Rockwell was in a totally different project mostly because he was unable to adapt to the satiric tone of the film and acted as if the whole thing was a parody.

    But like… that was the whole point, which is what I explained about. They purposely did this with only Bush’s character because it’s Bush lol and because the movie sets out to explain how Cheney was a shadow President.

    FYC: Aubrey Plaza (Black Bear)

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