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  • Riley Chow
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    I don’t remember when was the last time they have nominated a musical or singing focused film (or even some live action movie that doesn’t include war/clashing/gun voices) in Sound Editing. Sound Mixing is the place those are usually awarded.

    Only two major musicals have been snubbed in the extended field of five. Both underperformed and had no directing nominations. I think LA LA LAND is in a much better position than Dreamgirls and Les Miz.

    Field of five or not, no live-action musical has ever been nominated for sound editing. Ever. The only musical (live-action or not) to make it in is Aladdin. As soon as one gets in, it will win because the academy at large cannot tell the difference between the two categories, but betting on one to get in is foolish. It is not just musicals that do not appeal to the sound editors’ branch; it is any music-heavy film. See also the recent snubs for Whiplash and Inside Llewyn Davis.

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    Macca
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    Does anyone else see this getting 14 nominations?

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    Eddy Q
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    Does anyone else see this getting 14 nominations?

    If Riley is right about it having no chance in Sound Editing, then 13 is the absolute maximum:

    Picture
    Director
    Actor
    Actress
    Original Screenplay
    Editing
    Cinematography
    Production Design
    Costume Design
    Sound Mixing
    Original Score
    Original Song x 2

    It is no longer possible for one film to get more than 2 song nominations. It is also 100% certain that La La Land will not be nominated for Makeup or Visual Effects, as it has not been shortlisted for either. And clearly the film has no realistic shot at any supporting nominations, not that anyone said that it did. So there’s your maximum 13 above – all of which I’m actually predicting to happen at the moment.

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    Riley Chow
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    Just to cover my bases a bit, there has been a single film in the last ten years since they expanded the sound editing slots that does not fit the mould of a sound editing nominee (guns/war, sci-fi/fantasy, water, animation) and that was Birdman, which went on to Best Picture, among other wins. So I suppose that if the academy really loves the film, anything is possible. If La La Land is nominated, the lesson might be to watch out for Best Pictures sneaking in, not musicals.

    Birdman did pop up as a nominee in all three Motion Picture Sound Editors awards categories, so we had some warning, but that guild is not announcing their nominations this year until after after the academy, so we are not really going to get any new information for this debate.

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    GusCruz
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    Birdman was a loud movie with explosions and all.

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    I suspect this winds up with the full 14 nominations, including Sound Editing.

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    Riley Chow
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    I guess that Slumdog Millionaire only had guns to the extent that Birdman had guns and explosions too.

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    Riley Chow
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    Saw La La Land and it was great. Just to continue the discussion immediately above, this is not a sound editing contender at all. There is nothing interesting about the sound design, nor does the film require it. The whole movie is just music or talking. Best Score will be the easiest Oscar for this film to win.

    Hard to say which song wins. “Audition” is getting the bigger push and is the big solo late the film, but “City of Stars” is the recurring theme of the film and it won Critics’ Choice. There is also a chance that one of them is snubbed for the John Legend song. He is fresh off a win after all.

    The supporting actor campaign for J.K. Simmons is a joke. He has a minute of screen time. Emma Stone gave the kind of performance that wins the Best Actress Oscar. As I said in the Jackie thread, Natalie Portman gave the actress performance of the decade, but I have been holding strong with my Stone prediction because La La Land is warmer, Stone is younger and Portman has already won. I am even more confident after seeing La La Land. I am surprised that Stone and Ryan Gosling were not better singers.

    Was not impressed with the opening number on the freeway. It had the worst sound mix of the film and my university lip dub was more impressive, despite being produced non-professionally with volunteers.

    After Whiplash, I expected another film with a million cuts, but this was not that at all. There were constant long takes. It will be fine at the Oscars though—they awarded Gravity. It will even be fine at ACE—in the comedy category.

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    The backlash to this film has reached levels I haven’t seen since Slumdog Millionaire among the cinephiles. Even mainstream film twitter, which are usually dumb, has caught up. It sucks that I still have to wait weeks before finally seeing the damn thing.

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    I wrote this in the other La La Land thread:

    I saw the film this past weekend and wasn’t as blown away by it as I was led to believe by all of the hype. It was very well done, but I had issues with it, especially the ending. It’s big and splashy which Oscar voters love so I wouldn’t be surprised with a best picture win, but Hell or High Water is still my favorite of the year. Manchester and Moonlight are up there too.

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    The ending was my favourite part. That end montage literally took my breath away. I haven’t really been able to stop thinking about it since I saw it in October.

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    The ending was my favourite part. That end montage literally took my breath away. I haven’t really been able to stop thinking about it since I saw it in October.

    I wasn’t talking about the end montage. That was very well done. I was talking about ***SPOILER ALERT*** the fact that they couldn’t be together in the end. It was never explained why they couldn’t be together even though they were still in love with each other. We are taken on this journey throughout their relationship, but then when it gets to five years later nothing is explained.

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    SPOILER!!!

    I loved the ending and hated it at the same time. The film builds these two and takes us on their 1-year relationship that has its rocky moments, but to not have them end up together was cold. Then to play a scene in which we see how their lives could have ended up was even colder. This is why I loved the ending.

    Also, moral of the story, don’t trust John Legend.

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    I can support wins for Damien Chazelle and Tom Cross based on the end montage alone

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