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Did Geraldine Page Come Close to an Oscar Win (until she won in 1985)

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  • keithw
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    Just wondering people’s opinions on whether or not Geraldine Page was even close to a win on any of her seven nominations prior to her win for 1985’s “The Trip to Bountiful”. She is one of my favorite actresses of all time.
    Her nominations were:
    1953 Hondo
    1961 Summer & Smoke
    1962 Sweet Bird of Youth
    1966 You’re a Big Boy Now
    1972 Pete n Tillie
    1978 Interiors
    1984 The Pope of Greenwich Village
    1985 The Trip to Bountiful

    Any thoughts?

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    Blanche
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    She would have 100% won for Interiors had she campaigned where she belonged, in Best Supporting Actress.

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    Dan Jo
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    She would have 100% won for Interiors had she campaigned where she belonged, in Best Supporting Actress.

    I agree. She was haunting in Interiors.

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    Dennis El Mar
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    I know people have debated this specific category for years but I think she came in second for Sweet Bird of Youth in 1962. She was probably second in 1984 for Pope of Greenwich Village as well

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    babypook
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    What strikes me about those nominations is how different those roles are.
    I can’t answer your question specifically, but I know she received a standing ovation when she finally won.
    As far as I’m concerned she elevated every film she was in.
    She left us too soon.
    One of the greatest.

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    Eddy Q
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    She would have 100% won for Interiors had she campaigned where she belonged, in Best Supporting Actress.

    Perhaps, but then again the temptation to award Maggie Smith with an Oscar for losing an Oscar in her film may have been too strong regardless.

    I’m still not sure which category Page truly belongs in in Interiors. It’s one of the few genuine borderline cases. I’d have to watch it again to decide.

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    Emmyfan
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    I think that Maggie Smith would have won for California Suite against Geraldine if she were nominated in Supporting for Interiors.

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    keithw
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    I think that Geraldine Page likely came in third (behind Linda Hunt & Cher) for the Supporting Actress Oscar in 1984. The year she was nominated for “Interiors” the category was loaded with great performances……same when she was nominated for “Pete n Tillie”.

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    I think that Geraldine Page likely came in third (behind Linda Hunt & Cher) for the Supporting Actress Oscar in 1984. The year she was nominated for “Interiors” the category was loaded with great performances……same when she was nominated for “Pete n Tillie”.

    Linda Hunt and Cher was nominated in 1983.

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    zordon
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    Interesting topic.

    Wasn’t Page second for Summer and Smoke? She won the Globe, was nominated by NYFCC.
    The case can be made for Sweet Bird too although maybe Davis was ahead of her. Interiors is another tricky one – I believe she was the second in lead and would have been behind Smith in supporting.

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    Jake
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    I think she was second in 1962, one of the strongest years in history for the category.

    1. Anne Bancroft
    2. Geraldine Page
    3. Bette Davis
    4. Katharine Hepburn
    5. Lee Remick

    Maybe 1978 for “Interiors” as well, even though Ingrid Bergman was playing similar character in a real Bergman movie so maybe she was ahead of her. Jane Fonda winning over both of them was unfortunate.

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    RobertPius
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    Maggie Smith was able to beat Maureen Stapleton in Interiors even though Stapleton had an overdue narrative and a stellar reputation. I too think Smith would have beat Page too if Page had been in supporting.

    Seeing Smith win for playing an Oscar loser was just too good an inside joke for them to pass up. (and she is really funny and even touching at points in the film.)

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    What’s ironic is that at GG Maggie Smith was in the lead category.

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    It’s all speculations, as I don’t even have the slightest idea how things came along back then, but there are several factors to take under considerations for 1984:

    1. Page wasn’t even a Globe nominee (which wasn’t a huge issue and actors still can win without a Globe nod), but it comes to show that the press wasn’t all about how overdue she was.
    2. Page didn’t have any precursors (which back then wasn’t a huge thing in supporting, judging from Geena Davis’s 1988 win and Don Ameche’s win in 1985), but it still means a lot for such an overdue nominee.
    3. Christine Lathi won the New York Film Critics Circle Award that year in supporting (with Oscar winner Peggy Ashcroft taking lead actress there). I’ve always been a bit surprised by how powerful the NYFCC was back then in the supporting categories. Throughout the 80s, five (or six, if you count Ashcroft) of the actual Oscar winners were NYFCC winners as well. In many cases, they didn’t have the Globe win on their side but the oldest and most powerful critics’ group was pushing them. In the 80s, only four of the Globe winners in supporting actress went on to win the Oscar as well.
    4. Page’s film got ONE nod only – for her performance. Lindsay Crouse was in a best picture nominee with wins for acting and writing. She certainly had much support.

    And of course, pure speculation but I don’t think that Page was a top 3 contender in 1984. I believe Lathi and Crouse were ahead of her.

    Of all the years, I don’t think she was second at all. In 1962, I believe it was either Page or Davis coming in second, so she was close but I believe Davis, being the legend and all, was closer.

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    You could be right, although my hunch is she was 2nd in Greenwich, which gave her the momentum to win for Trip.
    And really, her few scenes mopped the floor over her costars.

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