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May 27, 2020 at 8:14 pm #1203504425
They ran it on CBS Sunday. I had forgotten that it wasn’t even nominated for Best Original Screenplay. I think it should have got the spot Deconstructing Harry took.
Granted some of the dialogue in Titanic is a bit hokey but the structuring and plotting of the whole thing deserved it more than a mediocre Woody Allen movie.
Thoughts?
ReplyMay 27, 2020 at 8:40 pm #1203504432No. Its script is pedestrian. James Cameron’s directorial prowess is why Titanic works at all.
ReplyCopy URLMay 27, 2020 at 8:55 pm #1203504443The screenplay deserved a nomination. The structure of the script was fantastic. Screenplays shouldn’t only be lauded for clever dialogue. You had to have a great script to tell a 3 hour story like Titanic well.
ReplyCopy URLMay 27, 2020 at 9:07 pm #1203504449Yes, Titanic should have been nominated for and won the Original Screenplay Oscar. The film was a technical marvel, but also an incredible achievement in acting and writing as well.
I double checked and Titanic was the first film since The Sound of Music in 1965 to win Best Picture without a Screenplay nomination. No other Best Picture winner since Titanic in 1997 has won Best Picture without at least a Screenplay nomination.
Interesting, the other Titanic (1953) film won the Original Screenplay Oscar. The irony.
The list of 7 Best Picture winners without a Screenplay nomination:
1997 Titanic
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1965 The Sound of Music
1948 Hamlet
1932-1933 Cavalcade
1931-1932 Grand Hotel
1928-1929 The Broadway Melody
1927-1928 WingsMay 27, 2020 at 9:47 pm #1203504486While I do concede that the structure of the film worked well, I think the dialogue was more than enough reason to not let slip into the race.
I agree with M….the direction and pacing/editing along with a solid ensemble and spectacle helped shield the true horror of the dialogue.
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May 27, 2020 at 10:34 pm #1203504504No. The screenplay was its worst element (give or take Billy Zane).
ReplyCopy URLMay 28, 2020 at 3:05 am #1203504708Obviously single lines aren’t enough to get a nomination, however for a film to be quoted regularly (more than one line too) over 20 years after its release…the screenplay’s got to have something about it.
‘I’m king of the world‘
‘Paint me like one of your French girls‘
‘I’ll never let go‘Avatar doesn’t have that quotability (for a sort of comparison of Cameron blockbusters that didn’t get a screenplay nod).
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May 28, 2020 at 3:13 am #1203504710Yes. should’ve won.
Obviously single lines aren’t enough to get a nomination, however for a film to be quoted regularly (more than one line too) over 20 years after its release…the screenplay’s got to have something about it. ‘I’m king of the world‘ ‘Paint me like one of your French girls‘ ‘I’ll never let go‘ Avatar doesn’t have that quotability (for a sort of comparison of Cameron blockbusters that didn’t get a screenplay nod).
“It’s been 84 years”… lol jk
ReplyCopy URLMay 28, 2020 at 3:30 am #1203504719Yes. should’ve won.
“It’s been 84 years”… lol jk
You joke but…people use it to this day. Cameron’s having the last laugh.
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May 28, 2020 at 8:08 am #1203505097Quoting is a mark of popularity not necessarily quality.
ReplyCopy URLMay 28, 2020 at 9:56 am #1203505267A nomination…..yes, it should have been nominated.
ReplyCopy URLMay 28, 2020 at 9:58 am #1203505271Quoting is a mark of popularity not necessarily quality.
Nomination? I could live with that. Win? No. I think if Cameron was just a co-writer on Titanic, that maybe would have helped him get a screenplay nomination. The nominators may have thought it was just too much, when screenplay was one of the weakest parts of the film (yeah, along with Zane). Good Will Hunting was always going to win because of the screenplay and the story of Ben & Matt. But As Good As It Gets, Boogie Nights, and The Full Monty are a great roster.
ReplyCopy URLMay 28, 2020 at 11:12 am #1203505435They ran it on CBS Sunday. I had forgotten that it wasn’t even nominated for Best Original Screenplay. I think it should have got the spot Deconstructing Harry took. Granted some of the dialogue in Titanic is a bit hokey but the structuring and plotting of the whole thing deserved it more than a mediocre Woody Allen movie. Thoughts?
It looked like Titanic might’ve been on the cusp of a Best Original Screenplay nomination not only because of how well the film itself did with Oscar nominations (and wins), but also because the screenplay was nominated by the Golden Globes and WGA. The latter group also nominated Avatar, regardless of what anyone thinks of that film’s script. As of now, I’ve only seen two of the Best Original Screenplay nominees from 1997 (which would be As Good As It Gets and Good Will Hunting), but if I had to nominate Titanic, I would definitely replace Deconstructing Harry with it because all due respect to Woody Allen, he doesn’t need another Oscar nomination. Plus, he’s never even cared about the Academy Awards.
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