

-
-
January 15, 2018 at 4:16 pm #1202467986
After watching the ABC interview with her last week and some of the post show coverage especially an interview I saw with a Portland reporter who covered her whole career and scandal I got the feeling she knew much more than the film indicates.
Does that affect your feeling on whether or not the film should be awarded? There was just something odd about seeing Harding treated like a star at the Golden Globes.
Supposedly she is now asking for 25K if a reporter says the words NANCY KERRIGAN to her.
(sorry if this has been covered a lot. I’ve been off Gold Derby for a few weeks.)
ReplyJanuary 15, 2018 at 4:27 pm #1202467992This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 15, 2018 at 5:08 pm #1202468021Uhm, no. If the source, in this case, Harding and Gillooly, states the information they need in this way they can only show that. What did you want them to do? Add speculative information that was not provided by either party?
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 5:18 pm #1202468025I don’t think that Harding is too sympathetic in the film…some things are ambiguous like the suppose fact that she try to shot her husband, she said she would never do such thing but the film show her doing exactly that.
ReplyCopy URLThe Oscar needs to get rid of the preferential ballot so it can name a deserving movie as Best Picture again.
January 15, 2018 at 5:30 pm #1202468028Yes, the movie makes her more sympathetic but not in too gross of a fashion. Out of the many issues the film has, I think the portrayal of Tonya Harding is pretty low. I mean people already hate her so don’t think it moves the scale either way.
It is the disastrous press tour that will really cause people to think twice. The real Tonya Harding is exactly who we always thought she was. A manipulative mastermind behind one of the most horrific attacks in sports history.
But we won’t see how it effects phase 2 until after Oscar noms.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 6:33 pm #1202468046This is what people need to remember about the film, it is based on the interviews with Tonya and her ex husband. It is not claiming to be the 100% truth of the situation.
So yes, the “Tonya truth” is gonna make Jeff look worse and the “Jeff truth” is gonna make Tonya look worse.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 6:51 pm #1202468056Uhm, no. If the source, in this case, Harding and Gillooly, states the information they need in this way they can only show that. What did you want them to do? Add speculative information that was not provided by either party?
The Portland reporter (whose name I wish I had noted) went through lots of more condemning information that Gillooly provided to authorities that she felt the the film left out.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 7:04 pm #1202468064Uhm, no. If the source, in this case, Harding and Gillooly, states the information they need in this way they can only show that. What did you want them to do? Add speculative information that was not provided by either party?
The Portland reporter (whose name I wish I had noted) went through lots of more condemning information that Gillooly provided to authorities that she felt the the film left out.
The movie says right from the start that its based on “wildly contradictory” interviews of Tonya and Jeff. In other words, take it with a grain of salt. If the movie presented itself as a serious factual account of what happened, i’d understand the backlash. But it doesnt do that.
The movie is also not just about the “incident”
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 8:38 pm #1202468112You can have compassion for Harding without becoming a fan or making her some feminist anti-hero. Her background is working class and abusive. That isn’t sensationalized for you to want her innocent competition to be physically assaulted. The movie itself is a work of art and entertainment. Obviously a movie about the victim would be more earnest in style and intent. But less compelling.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 9:16 pm #1202468126This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 15, 2018 at 9:58 pm #1202468151I did get the sense that the film took more liberties than I would have liked, but as with The Social Network, the film was so good that I was overall okay with that.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 15, 2018 at 10:32 pm #1202468177The sympathetic edit plays into the film’s favor re: Academy voters, particularly for BP, which is something I never would have predicted until actually seeing it for myself. It’s such an incisive and timely exploration of class, poverty, and aspirational success in modern-day America. In that respect, it’s one of the best films of the year. Margot Robbie shines and gives Tonya Harding far more consideration and sympathy than the real-life woman probably deserves. I didn’t see the ABC special, but really wanted to hear Tonya’s impressions of the film. Robbie, and by extension, Allison Janney, infuse this film with something special that it wouldn’t have had otherwise. Whether it’s “true” or not is almost irrelevant. The film is separate from all of that and more than did its job. I think Academy voters will properly acknowledge that later this month.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 16, 2018 at 12:35 pm #1202468647I think the film is pretty clever, in that it lamp shaded America’s obsession with celebrity and crime with the O.J. Simpson story at the end. I think the film would have been stronger if it left out Tonya’s foxy boxing history, as I think that diminished the story.
Back to the question at hand, I don’t think it makes her sympathetic persay. I just think Robbie excels in portraying the innocence and vulnerability of Tonya – when the real person might not be that way. It’s similar to Amy Adams in Julie and Julia.
ReplyCopy URL
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.