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January 25, 2018 at 5:42 pm #1202478992
For Oscars awards it’s tricky as everyone is entitled to their opinion what’s considered the best performance. The best award does not always go to the ‘best of the year’ by true consensus IMHO; marketing/promotion and popularity among peers in the industry to some extend influence ultimately who get nominated and ultimately win the award. It’s doubtful all members truly watch all the films they are voting on; which means chances are some of them vote for what’s ‘perceived’ to be the best. A lazy person like me might just look up online websites such as Goldderby Oscars prediction market to assist in the decision making process. This means what’s perceived as likely to win might just win because of perception. As of last week 3B is the front runner for best picture on this website prediction market, now it’s TSOW after the 13 nominations. If I were the film studio that’s promoting a movie for Oscars, website like this will be a very influential tool to shift public and more importantly Oscars voters’ opinion.
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Therefore a prediction market based on what one think should win instead of what will win is a better option. What do you think?January 25, 2018 at 7:39 pm #1202479072This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 25, 2018 at 7:48 pm #1202479081This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 25, 2018 at 8:03 pm #1202479094Art is subjective. There is no such thing as the objective ‘best.’ So there’s no way to answer this question.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 25, 2018 at 8:03 pm #1202479095Hi singtribe, I’m sorry you had to deal with such snarky and condescending replies. But to answer your question, I don’t think so. Campaigning plays a huge part in getting the Oscar. And there’s the release date factor etc etc.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 25, 2018 at 8:32 pm #1202479111I’ll agree with Miles and sitizoner both. In reality, it’s ridiculous to try and pit different pieces of art against each other. This year, voters are being shown a 59 year-old man covered in makeup and prosthetics delivering a showy, power-packed performance and a 22 year-old playing a young man discovering his sexuality and adulthood with a subtle, nuanced role, and they’re being asked to pick which is best. There’s nothing to compare; everything about the performances is different. Same with pitting Call Me by Your Name and Darkest Hour against each other. Completely different types of films. It’s totally preference, there’s no “right” answer.
It’s also impossible for anyone to be completely subjective with constant campaigning, different times of watching the films, real-life factors, etc…
And then there are people who, because the Academy never awards THEIR particular favorites, claim that the Oscars are “wrong” when there’s no such thing. So the Oscars might be a fun thing to talk about and watch and try to predict, but at the end of the day, there’s no such thing as a “best” movie.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2018 at 1:35 am #1202479245Of course not and I agree with several posters above.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2018 at 1:43 am #1202479248Citizen Kane, The Shawshank Redemption, Psycho, Taxi Driver, Singing In The Rain, A Clockwork Orange, American History X, Goodfellas, Se7en, Memento, Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction. Some of these weren’t even nominated for BP but people will still be talking about them in 50 or 80 years’ time.These are the movies that should have won.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2018 at 1:48 am #1202479249This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 26, 2018 at 1:55 am #1202479251This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 26, 2018 at 1:55 am #1202479253Art is not completely subjective, and some opinions are better than others because they’re rationally motivated. And there’s general consensus behind some opinions while there can be zero consensus behind other ones. So no, it’s quite obvious that Citizen Kane was the best film of that year, or at the very least the best film among the nominees, exactly as if someone affirmed that Alien vs Predator – to take a guilty pleasure of mine, lol – should win the Oscar for Best Picture the year it was released, it would be quite obvious that it was a terrible opinion.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2018 at 2:06 am #1202479257Literally almost never. I’ve been doing personal awards for 5 years and in that time only twice have I awarded the same person as the Oscars. These were Viola Davis last year and Mark Rylance the year before and even these are probably disputable to many on here. The Oscars are completely based upon politics and narrative and it’s what makes them less interesting.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2018 at 4:54 am #1202479302It wasn’t subjective when it came to Brokeback. It was a disgrace that the Academy should be ashamed up. Was SIL winning over Saving Private Ryan. Yeah maybe.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 26, 2018 at 5:13 am #1202479316No. There are SO many amazing films and performances that have lost to inferior ones (Saving Private Ryan, Fargo, Al Pacino in The Godfather Part II, Denzel Washington in Malcolm X, The Graduate, etc.)
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