December 18, 2020 at 1:15 pm #1203930588
The thing Flanigan has going for her is “the scene”. It’s a powerhouse showcase of her talents.December 18, 2020 at 1:18 pm #1203930610
One thing is for certain though and that is Flanigan is 100% locked for the Indie Spirit nomination. Might even win (although she faces tough competition for the win).
FYC: All things The Crown, Hacks and I May Destroy You (and Hannah Waddingham and Julianne Nicholson whilst you're at it)!!December 18, 2020 at 1:23 pm #1203930632
It depends on who you saw “in the conversation” as IMO, Flannigan was “in the conversation” before. In fact it was in The Best Actress thread on this forum where I first heard of Never Rarely Sometimes Never. Either way, she’s “in the conversation” now. Doesn’t mean she’ll get a nomination, but she’s not coming out of nowhere if she receives one. Just like if Eighth Grade or Martha Marcy May Marlene had somehow gotten with Oscar. You’d be saying they were “in the conversation”.
I don’t consider her to have been ‘in the conversation’ previously when most of those few mentions were either not related to predictions at all or were throwaway comments. We’ll have to disagree on that then.
Eighth Grade did get in at multiple relevant precursors and was being considered for noms much before so yes it was in the conversation. Wasn’t following awards in 2011 so can’t comment on Martha…but it does look like a critics only thing.
Anyway, I was more or less disagreeing with the statement that many Oscars winners have started as ‘critics things’, at least in recent years.December 18, 2020 at 1:37 pm #1203930672
Never Rarely Sometimes Always is still the best film of this year, to me, and would’ve been last year in my mind too if it was released then. I wish it had gotten the top prize but Sidney as the face of the film for critics with a Screenplay push too, I can’t complain. And I don’t even think it’s that inaccessible, to be honest (unless you’re vehemently anti-abortion).
That, obviously First Cow, and Da 5 Bloods came out of this very well.December 18, 2020 at 1:38 pm #1203930674
The Da 5 Bloods push is interesting. I’m here for this
Best Actress - Viola Davis, Frances McDormand
Best Actor - Delroy Lindo, Chadwick Boseman
Best Supporting Actor - Colman Domingo, Glynn Turman
Best Picture - Nomadland
Best Director - Chloé Zhao
SAG Ensemble - Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Best Cinematography - NomadlandDecember 18, 2020 at 3:10 pm #1203930936
I don’t think Flanigan will get in at the Oscars but the thing that is really being underestimated on here is that her film is one we know people in the industry have seen and liked. It came out when there was a dearth of films and was quite buzzy around its release date. It’s one that as a result of its buzz with audiences and critics made it on to lots of critics and some cinephile audience lists. If voters fall back on things they saw earlier then I think she could potentially do well.
But then again we shouldn’t put too much into these critics awards and I’m finding it ironic some are saying at one point they are useless but at other points they are accurate barometers of what will happen because sometimes they suit and sometimes they fail the narrative they’re pushing. What is worth thinking about from these awards is that Flanigan (and Garner) have over-performed and won and got nominated for awards over people like Viola Davis, Vanessa Kirby, Carey Mulligan etc who in normal times would be dividing each of these three awards between them. I personally think there is an over-reaction being made when people start to claim these awards mean so and so will get snubbed but they are very useful in telling us the buzz for each contender. I think both Flanigan and Garner are at least in the top 10 because their films and performances (like it or not and awards or not) have buzz.
Anyway, I was more or less disagreeing with the statement that many Oscars winners have started as ‘critics things’, at least in recent years.
Yeah I can’t think of any winners who have won when they started off as critics things? Brie Larson?
We have had lots of nominees who have though like Penelope Cruz and Ruth Negga.
FYC: All things The Crown, Hacks and I May Destroy You (and Hannah Waddingham and Julianne Nicholson whilst you're at it)!!December 18, 2020 at 3:12 pm #1203930943
The Da 5 Bloods push is interesting. I’m here for this
I don’t like how they awarded Boseman for that but Da 5 Masterpiece is underrated af.
Would be funny if it ended up winning Best Picture.
FYC: All things The Crown, Hacks and I May Destroy You (and Hannah Waddingham and Julianne Nicholson whilst you're at it)!!December 18, 2020 at 3:27 pm #1203930983
So I checked and First Cow will probably become the first ever NYFCC Best Picture winner since its creation in 1935 to receive zero Oscar nomination..
Its best chances are in Adapted Screenplay and Cinematography but it’s very unlikely.
Hope this prize (and the other ones to come) will boost its chance, it’s maybe my favorite film of the year too.December 18, 2020 at 4:32 pm #1203931121
First Cow is the best film of 2020.December 18, 2020 at 4:53 pm #1203931155
Argh the fact that some of the best films of 2020 aren’t even available to watch here is so infuriating.December 18, 2020 at 9:29 pm #1203931663
I’m so happy that NRSA is getting so much love from critics, even if that won’t translate to Oscar buzz, it’ll definitely get in at the Indie Spirits. NRSA just had the unfortunate of being released right on the cusp of COVID, I think they were out a week before theatres shut down; and March honestly feels like a year ago at this point.December 18, 2020 at 11:16 pm #1203931842
Boston Online Film Critics Association:
2. First Cow
3. Da 5 Bloods
4. Never Rarely Sometimes Always
6. Lovers Rock
7. Promising Young Woman
9. Dick Johnson Is Dead
10. Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Director: Chloé Zhao – Nomadland
Actress: Frances McDormand – Nomadland
Actor: Delroy Lindo – Da 5 Bloods
Supporting Actor: Paul Raci – Sound of Metal
Supporting Actress: Maria Bakalova – Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Screenplay: I’m Thinking of Ending Things – Charlie Kaufman
Animated Film: Wolfwalkers
Documentary: The Painter and the Thief
International Film: Bacurau
Ensemble: Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Cinematography: Nomadland – Joshua James Richards
Editing: Nomadland – Chloé Zhao
Score: Soul – Trent Reznor & Atticus RossDecember 18, 2020 at 11:24 pm #1203931858
No The Father. Interesting.
Da 5 Bloods is coming!December 18, 2020 at 11:29 pm #1203931863
Is News of the World not available for these awards? Sorry if this has been asked already
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