March 3, 2014 at 4:08 pm #145552
I have been against the idea of nine-10 nominees for Best Picture since it was introduced. It does nothing but add category-filler, and I think this year proves that.
American Hustle – 0/10
Captain Phillips – 0/6
Nebraska – 0/6
The Wolf of Wall Street – 0/5
Philomena – 0/4
The remaining nominees:
Gravity – 7/10
12 Years a Slave – 3/9
Dallas Buyers Club – 3/6
Her – 1/5
It’s also important to note non-Best Pic nominee, The Great Gatsby, went 2/2 while Blue Jasmine has one major win under its belt (Lead Actress) out of its three major nominations (Lead Actress, Supp. Actress, Original Screenplay).
Looking at that list, it makes me wonder. Were the five that went home empty-handed mere category-filler? Because in all likelihood, if there wasn’t a system in place for nine-10 nominees, Dallas Buyers Club and Her would for sure had missed the lineup. I think Nebraska and Philomena would have as well (although Nebraska is tricky because it snuck in Director; if Nebraska would have made the top five then I suppoe it would have bumped out Captain Phillips).
It’s interesting to think that a film that went 3/6 (DBC), two of which were Acting wins, wouldn’t have had a shot in Best Picture with five noms. It’s happened before with two 2005 films, King Kong and Memoirs of a Geisha, both going home with 3 wins but not cracking the major categories. (which again raises the question, should they have been in Best Picture, after all?).
War Horse is the grandest example of all: Six nominations, zero wins. But one of the six noms in Best Picture, yet no Directing, Writing, or Acting noms to accompany it.
Rather than doing my own research, I thought I would make it a topic. What films – when there were just five nominees for Best Picture and when they increased the category noms – went home empty-handed, despite being nominated in Best Picture? It’s pretty curious how five of the nine Best Picture of the Year – by the Academy’s standards – don’t get a single win. (For what it’s worth, I personally don’t rank any of the five in the top spot in their categories, so I feel the Academy made the right choice.) Was there ever a time when there were five nominees and only one or two won while the other three were completely shut out? I believe The Color Purple and Gangs of New York fit into that category. What else?March 3, 2014 at 4:15 pm #145554
The remaining nominees:
Gravity – 7/10
12 Years a Slave – 3/9
Dallas Buyers Club – 3/3
Her – 1/5
Dallas Buyers Club had 6 nominations.March 3, 2014 at 4:19 pm #145555
My theory of them spreading the wealth of the awards like they did last year is pretty much dead in the water…
FYC: Ready Player One. Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Visual Effects, Original Score, Production Design, Director and BEST PICTURE (make it happen Oscars!!)March 3, 2014 at 4:20 pm #145556
Since b/w 1944-2008 there were 5 nominees, not sure it’s that big a record to be honest. But at least this way, misery loves company.March 3, 2014 at 4:21 pm #145557
The Turning point had 11 nominations but no victories, like the Color Purple. 1999 had 3/5 of the BP nominees go home empty handed: The Insider (7 norms), The Sixth Sense (6 norms), the Green Mile (4 norms). Those are the ones of the top of my head.
1994 also had only two of the BP nominees win anything, and Pulp a Fiction only had one win. Shawshank, Quiz Show and Four Weddings (13 noms total)
In 1987, Fatal Attraction, Hope and Glory, Broadcast News go empty handed (18 noms total).
1972, Deliverance, Sounder, The Emigrants (11 noms total)
1966, The Sand Pebbles, Alfie, The Russians are Coming (17 noms total)
1957, Peyton Place, Witness for the Prosecution, 12 Angry Men (18 noms total)
Those are ones I could find. It’s uncommon, but even with 5 nominees, it sometimes happened that most BP nominees don’t win at all.
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Edited DBC to have 3/6 instead of 3/3. Thanks for catching that, guys!March 3, 2014 at 5:13 pm #145559
If only Beasts of the Southern Wild’s only nom last year was BP, that might have been enough for the academy to end this farce.
This is all The Reader’s fault.March 3, 2014 at 5:15 pm #145560
Blame it on Gravity and Great Gatsby.March 3, 2014 at 6:11 pm #145561
You can ignore–ETPhoneHome beat me to this post
In 1999, 3 of the 5 Best Picture nominees where shutout: THE INSIDER, THE SIXTH SENSE, and THE GREEN MILE. That’s an even worse percentage than last night.
Ditto 1994: QUIZ SHOW, THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION and FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL
1987: HOPE AND GLORY, FATAL ATTRACTION and BROADCAST NEWS
1972: THE EMIGRANTS, SOUNDER and DELIVERANCE
1966: ALFIE, THE SAND PEBBLES and THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING, THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING
1957: PEYTON PLACE, 12 ANGRY MEN and WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTIONMarch 3, 2014 at 6:19 pm #145562
What the hell with Tender Mercies? Robert Duvall won Best Actor and Horton Foote Best Screenplay.March 3, 2014 at 6:23 pm #145563
This topic goes along with Mark Harris’s great article about the insularity of the nominees pool post-BP expansion. Just as voters opted to select most of their acting/directing/writing nominees around the BP field, this year they latched onto a few of their favorites for win after win in the top categories. I don’t mind that too much. If that’s what they want to do, so be it. I wouldn’t call the zero winners “filler” though. I think that’s somewhat insulting to the great craft of some of those nonwinners. Who knows what they could have won in different/less competitive years? I’ve supported the BP expansion since the beginning, and even though they haven’t quite reached the milestones and diversity that I’d hoped for these past couple of years, the expansion has still shined a light on many deserving films that might not have been highlighted before the expansion. It’s interesting to think what would have made the final five according to these winners. That’s risky to do, b/c the race would have been a different one had that happened. But I’ll go ahead and say the final five would have been “12 Years a Slave,” “Gravity,” “American Hustle,” “Dallas Buyers Club,” and “The Wolf of Wall Street.” I’d guess that the same results would have occurred in that field, give or take, and Alexander Payne would have kept his lone director slot.March 3, 2014 at 6:33 pm #145564
Similarly, in 1942, 6 of the 10 nominees won nothing: WAKE ISLAND, RANDOM HARVEST, THE TALK OF THE TOWN, THE PIED PIPER, KINGS ROW and THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS
Same with 1940: OUR TOWN, THE LONG VOYAGE HOME, FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT, THE LETTER, THE GREAT DICTATOR and ALL THIS, AND HEAVEN TOO
1932/33: STATE FAIR, 42ND STREET, SHE DONE HIM WRONG, I AM A FUGITIVE FROM A CHAIN GANG, LADY FOR A DAY, and SMILIN’ THROUGH
In 1934, out of 12 nominees, only 5 won. That’s the worst percentage in Oscar history. Those seven shutouts: THE THIN MAN, THE WHITE PARADE, FLIRTATION WALK, IMITATION OF LIFE, THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD, HERE COMES THE NAVY, and THE BARRETTS OF WIMPOLE STREETMarch 3, 2014 at 7:13 pm #145565
What the hell with Tender Mercies? Robert Duvall won Best Actor and Horton Foote Best Screenplay.
Sorry about that, my source was off. I fixed it now.
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I don’t think the fact a movie goes empty-handed makes it a filler. Just means it was not the favorite at any race. As mentioned before in 1999 The Green Mile, The Insider and The Sixth Sense all were shut-out, and those were definetely not filler nominees.
But I do think it’s time for the Academy to consider going back to a 5-nominee BP field. This should really be an elite group.
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