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    Gaga detractors losing their mind already, cause the script (the weakest link according to them, apparently is not shitty afterall) gIrL bOsSed A mUrdEreR!11!! gAvE gAGa ToO mUcH sCrEeN tImE!!11!!! HOG is a movie INSPIRED (as cited in the trailer) by the Gucci family events and not a documentary to stay accurate to what really happened. It’s like crying why Devil wears Prada wasn’t accurate to what Anna Wintour did to her assistant but added scenes that never happened in real life. It’s called cinema dumbass!

    If this is directed at me, which it clearly is – there is no need to be rude or name call. I don’t have an issue with Gaga – I’m rooting for her and think she’s perfect for this role – my issue is that they seem, based on what’s been said, to have made the story LESS interesting by making the character more sympathetic. Which seems an odd way to go about it.

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    Oh don’t even start with this – the issue with her being ‘girl bossed’ is because she’s a murderer, nothing to do with whether or not the film is ‘woman centric’ – films that are focused on women can be focused on the bad shit they do, too, without having to make them some weird vixen girlboss who somehow has magical power over all the men in her life (disclaimer: I am a woman).

    I think you’re overthinking. The review literally says the audience eventually finds out she’s a bitch indeed halfway through the film. But they doesn’t make it obvious earlier because they don’t want to spoil that shes the one behind the assassination.

    There’s no girl bossing of a murderer in my opinion, they just trying to make the story more accessible.

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    I didn’t even mention women anywhere in my post. I mentioned Film Twitter.  Last time I checked, it doesn’t consist of women only. But anyway, of course that there are people who are rational (majority)  but they don’t get media spotlight like the loons who don’t see the difference between Patrizia and, for example, Handmaid’s Tale heroine (don’t watch the show so don’t know her name) but consider both to be right because they are women. For them, it’s the same woman in the men’s world fights back yaaaas. In fact, you are more likely to get thinkpieces that are Yass Queening or lament the lack thereof, than the ones that criticize sanitation. Clickbait culture and all that.

    My point is that you get changes like this because studios are now trained to look over their shoulder whenever they make movies with women. They are afriad that female character isn’t “strong” enough so they chip off parts of personality (doesn’t need help, doesn’t need romance, doesn’t need a team cause she’s an expert at everything,etc) or find ways to undermine negative traits (like re-assigning gold digging to Patrizia’s mom)  or just overpower the character who was originally appealing for being an everywomen (the disastoruous “Strong with the Chi-force” change to Mulan in the Disney live action), etc.

    Oh and whether people admit it or not, concerns have a lot to do with their favorite actor’s character being kicked aside to prop Patrizia. Remove that factor and there would be a collective shrug.

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    Oh wow they really are taking liberties. Why did all these actors agree to do this project when everything that makes the people they’re playing interesting is apparently going to Gaga while they just sit there? It’s such an odd take on this story. No she absolutely didn’t do that. She had nothing to do with the business stuff other than encouraging him at home to be more assertive.

    Lol, what? The script has her heavily involved in the business side of things when that never happened? I would love to know what the family thinks about this if it’s true.

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    I didn’t even mention women anywhere in my post. I mentioned Film Twitter. Last time I checked, it doesn’t consist of women only. But anyway, of course that there are people who are rational (majority) but they don’t get media spotlight like the loons who don’t see the difference between Patrizia and, for example, Handmaid’s Tale heroine (don’t watch the show so don’t know her name) but consider both to be right because they are women. For them, it’s the same woman in the men’s world fights back yaaaas. In fact, you are more likely to get thinkpieces that are Yass Queening or lament the lack thereof, than the ones that criticize sanitation. Clickbait culture and all that. My point is that you get changes like this because studios are now trained to look over their shoulder whenever they make movies with women. They are afriad that female character isn’t “strong” enough so they chip off parts of personality (doesn’t need help, doesn’t need romance, doesn’t need a team cause she’s an expert at everything,etc) or find ways to undermine negative traits (like re-assigning gold digging to Patrizia’s mom) or just overpower the character who was originally appealing for being an everywomen (the disastoruous “Strong with the Chi-force” change to Mulan in the Disney live action), etc. Oh and whether people admit it or not, concerns have a lot to do with their favorite actor’s character being kicked aside to prop Patrizia. Remove that factor and there would be a collective shrug.

    You are overreacting. Yes, some people made stupid changes based on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook. Not the reason here. Ridley Scott is a very powerful man like James Cameron or Spielberg and he doesn’t give a fuck about Facebook, Twitter or Instagram

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    Y’all have been doing too much on that review 💀

     

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    Y’all have been doing too much on that review 💀

    It’s all downhill from now on hun, it’s Lady Gaga again.

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    Y’all have been doing too much on that review 💀

    anything minimally related to this film will be made too much here

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    This isn’t a documentary people. And the Gucci family murder isn’t that well known a story either. Most people will actually be surprised by the fact Maurizio dies in the end.

    Like someone else said Ridley Scott never really cares about historical accuracy and he isn’t going to now for some people who read the book and think it should respect the real life victim lmao. Just trying to start controversy out of thin air. Same thing with The Last Duel, oh you can’t make a story with rape in this climate and boo hoo. Just let the 80 year old legendary director make what he wants, he knows what he’s doing.

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    This isn’t a documentary people. And the Gucci family murder isn’t that well known a story either. Most people will actually be surprised by the fact Maurizio dies in the end.

    Like someone else said Ridley Scott never really cares about historical accuracy and he isn’t going to now for some people who read the book and think it should respect the real life victim lmao. Just trying to start controversy out of thin air. Same thing with The Last Duel, oh you can’t make a story with rape in this climate and boo hoo. Just let the 80 year old legendary director make what he wants, he knows what he’s doing.

    Absolutely. Hollywood always takes liberties with the truth. (Even documentaries; Mike Lindell just put out one of those that IMO is worth even less than his pillows, and the right has complained about Michael Moore for decades.) There are historians who insist Oskar Schindler was nowhere near the hero Spielberg made him out to be, that he was always a Nazi war profiteer at heart & only got lucky because his profiteering just happened to save a few Jews from the gas chambers. Even with that, though, Spielberg got the highlights of his life right in Schindler’s List; that’s the best anyone can expect from Ridley Scott. (And as I posted over in the current Best Actress thread, I’m Team JHud myself — talk about respect 😀 — but presently think Gaga is the frontrunner, though I’m still looking for the Auto-Tune in the trailer that gives Gaga that Meryl Streep-esque Italian accent. 😉 )

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    Bumping this up cause I have a question
    I think it was @Opium who said that Rome Film Festival was trying to get them there.
    Is there a chance? November is so far away.

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    Bumping this up cause I have a question I think it was @Opium who said that Rome Film Festival was trying to get them there. Is there a chance? November is so far away.

    The executive director of distribution of Eagle for Italy claimed that is trying to get the movie premiere at Rome Film Festival but there hasn’t been any update about it yet.

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    The executive director of distribution of Eagle for Italy claimed that is trying to get the movie premiere at Rome Film Festival but there hasn’t been any update about it yet.

     

    Gaga has Vegas shows mid-October right during the Rome Film Festival so I doubt it’d premiere there.

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    Great news about box office: Shang Chi made 90 million USD. And VENOM 2 is opening October 1

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