October 14, 2017 at 8:38 pm #1202237346
You know, as fucked up as Harvey is, he still deserves credit for the movies he produced. He did great things for Hollywood and should still be credited for that. He’s just also a monster of a person as well. It just wouldn’t be right to act like the movies he gave us are worthless now, because they obviously aren’t. Mixed feelings, really.October 14, 2017 at 8:46 pm #1202237350
Is anyone truly surprised by any of this?
What I didn’t expect, is the timing. And, seemingly all at once.
There’s so much more. Insidious, gross, unconscionable stuff going on. Is all of that going to see the light of day as well?
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Philip K Dick Blade RunnerOctober 14, 2017 at 9:45 pm #1202237361
And yet Polanski is still a member. Until they expel him, this is all show.
Roman is an artist in exile. Love that he won a competitive Oscar for directing. One of the best surprise wins of the modern era which are few and far between.
I was specifically referring to his status as a member, not his win. I didn’t mention Woody Allen because he’s not a member. It doesn’t matter if Polanski is in exile or not – does that change the nature of his crime?October 14, 2017 at 9:56 pm #1202237364
It is one thing to kick a person out of the academy but I could see it getting really complicated if they started taking back Oscars.
What would they do with Gig Young for instance. He is pretty much thought to have killed his wife and then himself in a murder/suicide type situation. (I don’t think they were ever able to conclusively prove it but that is the theory as to what happened.)October 14, 2017 at 11:41 pm #1202237414This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.October 15, 2017 at 8:20 am #1202237561
Everybody knew he was such an asshole. Is this even a surprise?October 15, 2017 at 8:57 am #1202237592
People need to stop wasting their time begging for Allen and Polanski to become part of this. This whole thing is about fame, numbers and a long, looong list of people who have been pissed off at Harvey for decades.
Nothing like this would have happened to the man who raped his daughter (allegedly) and married anothe one. He’s not an asshole, it’s “only two women” who we don’t even care about and we love his films. And one of those daughters is actually “happily” married to him, so that situation cancels itsef out. Thanks Soon Yi. And who is Dylan Farrow anyway and “why should we care?”.
The other guy raped a girl a hundred years ago, is not an asshole, kept on making great films, the majority of his scandal happened before the internet era and again, it happened to somebody nobody cared/cares about. And he isn’t even around to fuck with people because he can’t live in the US. It was just “some girl”. If he ever did it again or before, nobody cares. “Have you even met him? No”.
With Harvey, he’s the biggest asshole ever. If there are 1000 people in the industry, 950 have been dreaming of this moment for years, for any number of reasons. From the guy who got screamed at for nothing, to the actress he raped. It’s not just “some daughter”, some “other daughter that married him anyway”, “some girl in the 60s”. It’s a whole town that has been affected by him. An insane group of people that must have felt hurt by this man one way or another. So of course this is the man that gets the full treatment. He deserves it all. The hypocrisy of this situation from the Academy, Bafta, guilds and others, comes from years of abuse to EVERYBODY, not just sexual, but verbal abuse, abuse of power, men who got fucked by him over money, agencies, directors, accountants, valet parking guy, cleaning lady, some guy at a front desk, a security guard, other studio heads, his fucking brother!. And of course the fact that the women who he did it to, include some of your favorites and women that you know, love and are members of these academies and guilds. If it had been some 2, 3 secretaries or assitants and none of these actress had come out, would this have happened? No. If we find out our beloved Steven Spielberg harrassed a girl on the Jaws set would this have happened? No. It didn’t happen to Polanski. He actually got rewarded after the fact. So did Allen. They won’t go there. People will forever dream of working with them. “They raped somebody, but common, they’re good people, people make mistakes”.
They’re also old as fuck. Harvey could’ve kept going and going. So there’s another key excuse.
Even we are in on this hypocrisy. We’ve hated a lot of the films that Harvey has managed to get nominated at the Oscars. We’ve noticed his campaigned methods and have hated on them and him. Even we have been affected by this guy because of our little hobby. We also want to see him get fucked.
So of course they want to get rid and punish this particular asshole, who did things to their dear sweet favorite actresses, but most importantly, the guy who they all dreamed would get fucked one of these days for ALL of the things he’s done to EVERYBODY out there.
This whole thing with Weinstein is like a huge class action and includes far more than just harrassment or sexual abuse. That’s why it’s working out this way. And that’s why it won’t work for Allen and Polanski.October 15, 2017 at 9:51 pm #1202238146
Completely valid explanation. We all know when she’s working, she’s working.October 16, 2017 at 5:31 pm #1202238778
Weinstein has been expelled by the PGA.October 17, 2017 at 2:58 pm #1202240846
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