Hillbilly Elegy (Part 2)

[JackO Joined: Jun 2nd, 2011 Topics: 3 Posts: 1053 View Predictions]

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Yeah so saw this and can happily report that it isnt the worst movie of all time. It was pretty much the mediocre feel good milquetoast oscar bait that comes every season.

But yeah, I didn’t really find much fault in direction or in performances of amy or glenn. In fact they were best parts of it. Honestly the worst part of the movie was JD Vance. His character is an irredeemable douchebag. When he was getting beaten up I was cheering for the bullies.

As a MAGA origin story its a very first world problems movie but I saw pundits trying to say that this is an “all lives matter” movie which couldnt be any further from truth. It doesnt even touch on those issues at all. Just goes to show that critics are not always reviewing things on screen.

I can see the backlash to the backlash forming much like Green Book as this film is very relatable to people who dont live in high rises on the coasts.

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[Luca Joined: Jun 23rd, 2017 Topics: 4 Posts: 4690 View Predictions]

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The online reactions to this, outside of this thread, are more positive than negative, I have found.

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[Joe Burns Joined: Jan 26th, 2014 Topics: 8 Posts: 137 View Predictions]

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This movie really should have gone from A to Z- it’s an important subject matter that has some resonance and good acting from Close but it doesn’t really explore the root causes of Bev’s addiction. It goes through the motions without explaining things. Adams was miscast too as she still looks too young and chirpy for the character. I don’t know why people think Close was hammy, I don’t think she ever went over the top. Her character is underdeveloped, the whole script is.

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[Joe Burns Joined: Jan 26th, 2014 Topics: 8 Posts: 137 View Predictions]

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RobertPius wrote:

Some people think the reviews have been so savage because the author of the book is a conservative in real life so the reviews have a political bias.

(Don’t know if this is true, haven’t seen the movie, read the book and I don’t know much about the author. Somebody told me he was on Tucker Carlson’s show yesterday discussing that the reviews may have been inspired more as personal attacks on him than the film.)

The reviews I have read don’t appear to be politically motivated, the film does not touch on Trump although he is a constant elephant in my mind watching it as I am a political junkie.

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[Joe Burns Joined: Jan 26th, 2014 Topics: 8 Posts: 137 View Predictions]

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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/11/what-hillbilly-elegy-actually-gets-right-about-growing-up-in-appalachia You should read this here to get some more insight into other takes on the film.

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[John Berchmans Joined: Jan 22nd, 2018 Topics: 2 Posts: 2923 View Predictions]

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I’m looking at the audience scores for Flopbilly Elegy. They’re okay (6.4 on iMDB, 77% on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.9 on Metacritic) but for a film with such awful reviews they needed to be better. For context, Green Book has an 8.2/10 on iMDB and a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes, Bohemian Rhapsody has an 8/10 on iMDB and an 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, and Joker has an 8.5/10 on iMDB, an 88% on Rotten Tomatoes, and a whopping 9/10 on Metacritic. Flopbilly needed to do better than those 3 films to have a chance and instead it’s doing significantly worse.

John's Best of 2020

Best Picture: Soul
Best Direction: The Midnight Sky
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman
Best Actress: Viola Davis
Best Supporting Actor: Delroy Lindo
Best Supporting Actress: Amanda Seyfried
Best Screenplay: Soul

John's Best of 2021

Best Picture: Nomadland
Best Direction: Nomadland
Best Actor: Lakeith Stanfield
Best Actress: Frances McDormand
Best Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya
Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung
Best Screenplay: Judas and the Black Messiah

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[John Berchmans Joined: Jan 22nd, 2018 Topics: 2 Posts: 2923 View Predictions]

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Joe Burns wrote:

This movie really should have gone from A to Z

I’m kind of feeling this way too. The worst aspect of the film was the jarring pacing and editing, and how misplaced nearly all of the time jumps were.

John's Best of 2020

Best Picture: Soul
Best Direction: The Midnight Sky
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman
Best Actress: Viola Davis
Best Supporting Actor: Delroy Lindo
Best Supporting Actress: Amanda Seyfried
Best Screenplay: Soul

John's Best of 2021

Best Picture: Nomadland
Best Direction: Nomadland
Best Actor: Lakeith Stanfield
Best Actress: Frances McDormand
Best Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya
Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung
Best Screenplay: Judas and the Black Messiah

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[John Berchmans Joined: Jan 22nd, 2018 Topics: 2 Posts: 2923 View Predictions]

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The funniest movie of the year. Netflix should ask HFPA to switch categories. Adams would be a lock for GG nom in comedy actress.

John's Best of 2020

Best Picture: Soul
Best Direction: The Midnight Sky
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman
Best Actress: Viola Davis
Best Supporting Actor: Delroy Lindo
Best Supporting Actress: Amanda Seyfried
Best Screenplay: Soul

John's Best of 2021

Best Picture: Nomadland
Best Direction: Nomadland
Best Actor: Lakeith Stanfield
Best Actress: Frances McDormand
Best Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya
Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung
Best Screenplay: Judas and the Black Messiah

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[marty Joined: Aug 18th, 2020 Topics: 1 Posts: 1447 View Predictions]

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John Berchmans wrote:

I’m looking at the audience scores for Flopbilly Elegy. They’re okay (6.4 on iMDB, 77% on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.9 on Metacritic) but for a film with such awful reviews they needed to be better. For context, Green Book has an 8.2/10 on iMDB and a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes, Bohemian Rhapsody has an 8/10 on iMDB and an 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, and Joker has an 8.5/10 on iMDB, an 88% on Rotten Tomatoes, and a whopping 9/10 on Metacritic. Flopbilly needed to do better than those 3 films to have a chance and instead it’s doing significantly worse.

This. I’d like anyone insisting that the GP is loving this to explain why the so-called positive audience reviews are mediocre at best. At best, there is a consensus that it’s bland and nothing special. There is a small minority of people who are actual fans, unlike with Green Book and Bohemian Rhapsody, both of which struck a chord. This will be forgotten in a month. It’s only shot is Close.

FYC:

Best Director - Lee Isaac Chung (Minari), Darius Marder (Sound of Metal)

Lead Actor - Delroy Lindo (Da 5 Bloods), Mads Mikkelsen (Another Round), Riz Ahmed (Sound of Metal)

Supporting Actor - Paul Raci (Sound of Metal)

Supporting Actress - Youn Yuh-jung (Minari)

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[JackO Joined: Jun 2nd, 2011 Topics: 3 Posts: 1053 View Predictions]

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Joe Burns wrote:

The reviews I have read don’t appear to be politically motivated, the film does not touch on Trump although he is a constant elephant in my mind watching it as I am a political junkie.

here is the bias from variety

With Black Lives Matter gaining significant traction, a film about a Caucasian venture capitalist’s upbringing doesn’t feel exactly well-timed in our climate. Despite two magnificent actresses like Amy Adams and Glenn Close at the helm, director Ron Howard’s “Hillbilly Elegy” may face trouble on the awards circuit.

For a story that hones in on the “Appalachian values” and the “American dream,” this is likely to be eaten up by a certain 70 million-person demographic, with a few select Academy members. For the rest of the entertainment-watching world, this looks like a failure to read the room, in an effort to provide another example that “all lives matter” and there are “very fine people on both sides.”

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https://variety.com/2020/film/awards/hillbilly-elegy-oscar-chances-1234826650/

It talks about a bunch fo stuff not even in the movie

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[Jazzy Joined: Dec 3rd, 2018 Topics: 1 Posts: 591 View Predictions]

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I actually think that the controversy over Glenn’s comments about Gwyneth Paltrow’s Oscar is inadvertently serving as a form of publicity for Hillbilly Elegy LOL. There’s been several articles about the controversy already. Look at this particular article about the controversy — at the end it says “Hillbilly Elegy is on Netflix now”.

https://theplaylist.net/glenn-close-gwyneth-paltrow-shakespeare-in-love-20201126/

FYC: Vanessa Kirby - Pieces of a Woman

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[marty Joined: Aug 18th, 2020 Topics: 1 Posts: 1447 View Predictions]

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JackO wrote:

‘ https://variety.com/2020/film/awards/hillbilly-elegy-oscar-chances-1234826650/ It talks about a bunch fo stuff not even in the movie

That’s… Not commenting on the movie at all… It’s literally saying “this might lose out on awards because of X external factor”…

FYC:

Best Director - Lee Isaac Chung (Minari), Darius Marder (Sound of Metal)

Lead Actor - Delroy Lindo (Da 5 Bloods), Mads Mikkelsen (Another Round), Riz Ahmed (Sound of Metal)

Supporting Actor - Paul Raci (Sound of Metal)

Supporting Actress - Youn Yuh-jung (Minari)

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[Damucracia Joined: Jan 21st, 2019 Topics: 3 Posts: 140 View Predictions]

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Ok. I watched the movie last night.

It’s far from good but it’s not terrible.

I was impressed by Basso’s performance. He’s the lead without a doubt. Amy is supporting, even though she is heavily on screen of the first half. I liked her performance. It’s over the top but it portraited a woman on the verge of collapse.

On the other hand, Glenn role is little cartoonish, but in the end it achieved much depth. I find it very ironic that, despite she is a very importante role in the movie, she has no proper death scene.

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[RobertPius Joined: Nov 22nd, 2012 Topics: 26 Posts: 462 View Predictions]

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The odd thing is more people are talking about this movie than any of the ones that received good reviews.

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