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    Mickmack
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    If this was released with another distributor and outside of the pandemic it would have been the Grace of Monaco of this year.

    I can say that about most Streep movies the last 25 years.

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    I watched this last night, and I enjoyed it much better than I thought I would. I had several issues with the film, but Glenn Close gives a dynamic performance. Any Adams plays a functioning drug addict to the hilt! I’d still love to see both she and Glenn nominated. Now having watched it, the movie got far more of a bad wrap than it deserved.

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    I’m looking at the audience scores for Flopbilly Elegy. They’re okay (6.4 on iMDB, 77% on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.9 on Metacritic) but for a film with such awful reviews they needed to be better. For context, Green Book has an 8.2/10 on iMDB and a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes, Bohemian Rhapsody has an 8/10 on iMDB and an 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, and Joker has an 8.5/10 on iMDB, an 88% on Rotten Tomatoes, and a whopping 9/10 on Metacritic. Flopbilly needed to do better than those 3 films to have a chance and instead it’s doing significantly worse.

    Probably doesn’t help that the film has worse critic reviews than any of those three.

    I know people like to rag on Green Book, but the consensus was similar to that of Jojo Rabbit’s from the critics. Yes, some people hate it – but a lot of people loved it. It was a crowd-pleaser.

    Bohemian Rhapsody has 60% on Rotten Tomatoes, which isn’t that bad of a rating for your average film. It was, also, UNIVERSALLY praised for Rami Male’s performance (unlike Close and Adams – who’s reviews are hit and miss) and had the sentimental value of Queen’s legacy.

    Joker, on the other hand, is kind of incomparable to the reception of most any other film in recent memory. Remember, there were plenty of 5 star reviews from well-respected critics, but, also, plenty of terrible reviews. It was the definition of divisive with critics. However, unsurprisingly, it did well with a lot of the general public, due to it having a lot of cultural signifiance and a resonance that a film as incoherent as Hillbilly Elegy couldn’t hope to have had. Also, the Joekr is possibly one of the most culturally important characters in cinema from the last 50 years and is catnip for great actors to give a showy performance.

    Hillbilly Elegy is kind of just dull and has pretty much got entirely negative praise. There aren’t many positives to it, other than a polished cinematic style. The acting is… okay, I guess. It doesn’t really hit as hard as it thinks it does.

    The only way it would get into the Oscars (outside of make-up nom), in my opinion, is because it is a really lacklusture year and was put in a position where many Awards punits had projected that it would be a decently-sized contender. But, alas, I don’t think it’s going to get in… unless, the remaining Oscar contenders to get reviews are just as bad or worse…

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    Agreed with folks here that said this was not as bad as it was made out to be. Don’t think Adams will get nominated, but Close can with this performance.

    Close did not have a lot to do, but she was very good. I will be sad if she wins for this (and I am fan of hers), though, because her performance in “The Wife” was a tour-de-force compared to this. “The Wife” gave her a real crescendo of a performance.

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      To slap this film with ratings of 39 and 25(!) is ridiculous and unwarranted, and you all know it.

    What? This film was genuinely just not very good. Like there is nothing in this film which I haven’t seen done better in another film.

    Also, the plot is just not very interesting. The performanes from Close and Adams are very average to me – but I imagine that is the boring script, which has some genuinely terrible dialogue… The Terminator line is probably the best example because of how silly it is – but the stuff with young JD’s friends is, also, embarrassingly corny.

    Anyway, I have question for you. What did you actually like about it?

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    People complaining about other people complaining about this film because of JD Vance’s real-life persona and politics are the only people bringing JD Vance’s real-life persona and politics into the conversation. I assure you the film is mediocre even without consideration of the original source material and main character. I am exhausted by the criticisms I read that take the moral high ground of criticizing others for hating the film because of Vance, because there is a lot to dislike about this film that is beyond that factor. It is a lazy melodrama that attempts desperately to make you feel sad about bad things happening to characters you don’t care about simply because tragedy should garner sympathy. Whatever. Can’t wait to drive ourselves fucking nuts with going around in circles arguing over a film that isn’t worth it in the least.

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    Anyway, I have question for you. What did you actually like about it?

    I already posted my thoughts on it. Scroll back in the thread if you want to read that.

    FYC: Vanessa Kirby - Pieces of a Woman

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    Well, Hillbilly Elegy ended up being a crowd pleaser as I expected… Glenn Close is going to win that Oscar manifest! RT: 81% MC: 7,9/10 IMDb: 6,6/10

    Lol 6.6 on IMDB is a crowd pleaser? Its audience reception has been meh. There is no overwhelming love, unlike for Green Book.

    FYI MC user ratings are such a bad gauge, so susceptible to fraud- Never Rarely Sometimes Always was review bombed by incels and has a 0.7/10. You can bet that plenty of brand new accounts have given this one a 10/10 too.

    The Rotten Tomatoes verified user rating is the only one that should be taken seriously. There it has a good audience score- 81%- which is still a far cry from Green Book’s 91%, and still lower than Jojo (94%) and Bohemian Rhapsody (85%).

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    Lol 6.6 on IMDB is a crowd pleaser? It’s audience reception has been meh. There is no overwhelming love, unlike for Green Book. FYI MC user ratings are such a bad gauge, so susceptible to fraud- Never Rarely Sometimes Always was review bombed by incels and has a 0.7/10. You can bet that plenty of brand new accounts have given this one a 10/10 too. The Rotten Tomatoes verified user rating is the only one that should be taken seriously. There it has a good audience score- 81%- which is still a far cry from Green Book’s 91%, and still lower than Jojo (94%) and Bohemian Rhapsody (85%).

    Even then Rotten Tomatoes has a lot of alt-right trolls who could just be voting for it because of the controversy (I mean this is a site where one of the most raved about shows this year that happens to be about slavery has a 68 audience score because of trolling).

    FYC: Better Call Saul and The Good Fight in all categories including Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.

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    Just got around to watching this today as I forgot it even came out. Clearly, it isn’t as buzzy as it seemed like it might be early on but then again it is a Ron Howard film. He’s had one high (Rush) and several mediocre/terrible lows over the last decade. We really should have known better thinking it could be a big player this season. It’s a pretty bog-standard melodrama weighed down by cliche and shallow characterization. The flashbacks do very little to justify why we should care so much about the ‘current’ day events. Close and Adams are okay but they’ve both done much better work many times in their careers. I think Close is still in the running for a nomination but not for a win. Which would just be sad at this point, with 8 nominations and no wins? Ouch.

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    Chloe Sevigny stan <3
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    This was definitely not a good movie but I don’t think it deserved to be so unceremoniously panned in the way that it was. Also, Amy Adams wasn’t bad and Glenn Close was actually good (imo!!).

    Emmy FYC:

    Chloë Sevigny in “The Girl From Plainville” and “Russian Doll”

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    Was expecting a trainwreck based on RT score but it was actually moving. It’s just a simple family movie that has good visuals but average writing. I agree that JD is portrayed as too much of a hero.

    Amy wasn’t bad in my opinion, her acting seemed realistic for someone struggling with addiction. Glenn was terrific as usual and should be nominated.

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    Was expecting a trainwreck based on RT score but it was actually moving. It’s just a simple family movie that has good visuals but average writing. I agree that JD is portrayed as too much of a hero.

    Amy wasn’t bad in my opinion, her acting seemed realistic for someone struggling with addiction. Glenn was terrific as usual and should be nominated.

    I actually find the film “inspiring” especially JD’s perseverance to fight against all odds and his love for his own roots. Glenn Close’s Mamaw is the kind of grandma that I wish I had.

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    The film felt like a great Lifetime presentation. I thought Close and Adams were good; and the makeup was flawless. I also enjoyed the score.

    Predicted noms:

    Supporting Actress – Close
    Original Score
    Makeup & Hairstyling

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    The film felt like a great Lifetime presentation. I thought Close and Adams were good; and the makeup was flawless. I also enjoyed the score. Predicted noms: Supporting Actress – Close Original Score Makeup & Hairstyling

    I agree. I find the score very relaxing especially during the opening. I love country music so that’s fits. I might find that score and listen while trimming my herbs haha.

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