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  • Teridax
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    Is This is Me really as popular as people on this thread are trying to make it out to be? More people have seen Coco than The Greatest Showman, and we know the highest charting song doesn’t always win. Just last year we had a number 1 song lose. I know Remember Me isn’t as strong as City of Stars, but This Is Me isn’t as strong as Can’t Stop the Feeling either.

    Also, could the fact that Remember Me has multiple different versions in the movie help or hurt it? Perhaps people won’t vote for it because they don’t know which version they’re voting for? Or they could just appreciate the different versions and that would help it.

    I don’t think This Is Me is that popular, plus The Greatest Showman being really divisive won’t help it. I think Remember Me and Coco are so beloved that it won’t make any difference as to whether or not Oscar voters know which version they are voting for. Coco got the exact same 2 nominations that Frozen received, and I expect it to win those exact 2 categories.

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    Honey
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    Disney + Trump bashing Mexico/stupid wall = Oscars will go for Coco

    though the people behind Remember Me/This is Me/Stand up for Something all won Oscars for this category within the past 5 years. I wouldn’t be shocked if they went for Mystery of Love either.

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    People far more often vote for the movie they like than the individual craftsmanship of the category. And people will vote for a song that they remember in a movie versus one that just has a reputation on social media, the airwaves, etc.

    Remember how UP won Best Score primarily on the strength of the wordless sequence at the beginning of the film that left people in tears? Well, the same people are crying at the end of COCO because of the song and its role it plays in the story.

    Is it the best-crafted song? I don’t think so. But it’s by far the one that has the most resonance with people as they walk out of the cinema (or push their Eject button). GREATEST SHOWMAN was fun, but “This Is Me” isn’t (imho) even the best song in the film, and it’s buried in the middle of the story.

    “Mysteries of Love” is Pixar’s biggest competition because while it may not have the same direct emotional association that “Remember Me” will have, it is in a Best Picture nominee and perfectly captures the mood of the film.

    But I defy anyone to hum more than a few bars of the Oscar-winning songs from MONSTERS INC. or TOY STORY 3, so if those managed to win, the good will going for COCO (the inevitable Animated Feature winner) is strong.

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    Andrew D
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    But now the Olympics are using This is me in the promos ????

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    Brayden Fitzsimmons
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    I wonder how often The guild of music supervisors have been correct. I agree with their selection last night when they chose Mystery of Love Best Song in a film. It is the most beautiful song in the group of nominees. The nominees last night were the same as the Oscar nominees. I doubt Academy voters will actually make a decision to actually pick the best song but go with a popular choice.

    2015 (0/6)

    • “Love Me Like You Do” from 50 Shades of Grey (Written by Savan Kotecha, Ilya Salmanzadeh, Tove Lo, Max Martin and Ali Payami; Performed by Ellie Goulding)
    • “One Kind of Love” from Love and Mercy (Brian Wilson and Scott Bennett; Performed by Brian Wilson)
    • “See You Again” from Furious 7 (DJ Frank E, Charlie Puth, Wiz Khalifa and Andrew Cedar; Performed by Wiz Khalifa and Charlie Puth)
    • “Flashlight” from Pitch Perfect 2 (Sia Fuller, Christian Guzman, Jason Moore and Sam Smith) performed by Hailee Steinfeld and cast
    • “Better When I’m Dancing from The Peanuts Movie (Meghan Trainor, Thaddeus Dixon) performed by Meghan Trainor
    • “The Light That Never Fails” from Meru (Adrian Gurvitz, Andra Day & Lauren Christy) performed by Andra Day) – Music Consultant – TRACY MCKNIGHT

    2016 (2/6, plus winner)

    • “Can’t Stop The Feeling!” performed by Justin Timberlake, Anna Kendrick, Gwen Stefani, James Corden, Zooey Deschanel, Ron Funches, Icona Pop, Christopher Mintz-Plasse and Kunal Nayyar. (Trolls) –
    Justin Timberlake, Max Martin, Karl Johan Schuster (Songwriters)
    • “City of Stars” performed by Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone (La La Land) – Justin Hurwitz, Benj Pasek, Justin Paul (Songwriters)
    • “Drive It Like You Stole It” performed by Ferdia Walsh-Peelo (Sing Street) – Gary Clark (Songwriter)
    • “Heathens” performed by Twenty One Pilots (Suicide Squad) – Tyler Joseph (Songwriter)
    • “Just Like Fire” performed by P!nk (Alice Through The Looking Glass) – Alecia Moore, Max Martin, Karl Johan Schuster, Oscar Holter (Songwriters)

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    PerksofBeingGriff
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    People far more often vote for the movie they like than the individual craftsmanship of the category. And people will vote for a song that they remember in a movie versus one that just has a reputation on social media, the airwaves, etc. Remember how UP won Best Score primarily on the strength of the wordless sequence at the beginning of the film that left people in tears? Well, the same people are crying at the end of COCO because of the song and its role it plays in the story. Is it the best-crafted song? I don’t think so. But it’s by far the one that has the most resonance with people as they walk out of the cinema (or push their Eject button). GREATEST SHOWMAN was fun, but “This Is Me” isn’t (imho) even the best song in the film, and it’s buried in the middle of the story. “Mysteries of Love” is Pixar’s biggest competition because while it may not have the same direct emotional association that “Remember Me” will have, it is in a Best Picture nominee and perfectly captures the mood of the film. But I defy anyone to hum more than a few bars of the Oscar-winning songs from MONSTERS INC. or TOY STORY 3, so if those managed to win, the good will going for COCO (the inevitable Animated Feature winner) is strong.

    This is such an interesting category because there was the year Sam Smith won the Globe and everyone was predicting Gaga, but then the Oscars played it safe and gave it to Sam Smith for another James Bond movie.

    I think it is possible they play it safe and just give it to Pasek and Paul again.

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    Pulp
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    I think it is possible they play it safe and just give it to Pasek and Paul again.

    This year the competition is a highly acclaimed Pixar song, not a mediocre song from a documentary no one watched.

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    I think it is possible they play it safe and just give it to Pasek and Paul again.

    This year the competition is a highly acclaimed Pixar song, not a mediocre song from a documentary no one watched.

    ? Pasek/Paul are nominated for The Greatest Showman, which is a big hit, and they won last year for La La Land (and the Tony for Dear Evan Hansen).

    I think it can really be anyone except that Marshall song. Sufjan’s is anthemic of a BP nominee, Blige promoted her way to two nominations and Netflix may play better to a more open votership, Coco remains the frontrunner but they may think it’s lock in Animated is enough.

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    Michael Norris
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    The way I predict is the most obvious choice wins. Not necessarily the most popular song, but the one that has been most often talked about in association with the Oscar. This year that’s Remember Me. What I predict will happen is a repeat of two years ago. Keala Settle will give an absolute emotional knockout performance, blowing everyone away, and then the award will immediately go to Coco, and the Academy will look like idiots. Then some pretentious people will say This is Me deserved to lose because its lyrics are generic, despite the fact that the winner was even more generic, and only won because the voters can’t think for themselves and just voted for the obvious choice. An exact repeat of 2015.

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    Pulp
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    What I predict will happen is a repeat of two years ago. Keala Settle will give an absolute emotional knockout performance, blowing everyone away

    So is the parallel supposed to be to The Hunting Ground? If so I don’t remember that being an absolute emotional knockout performance.

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    It is odd how this category has diminished in importance.

    Some of the songs that won in the 70s, 80s etc. were huge hits and some were integral parts of the film. (Fame for instance.)

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    The way I predict is the most obvious choice wins. Not necessarily the most popular song, but the one that has been most often talked about in association with the Oscar. This year that’s Remember Me. What I predict will happen is a repeat of two years ago. Keala Settle will give an absolute emotional knockout performance, blowing everyone away, and then the award will immediately go to Coco, and the Academy will look like idiots. Then some pretentious people will say This is Me deserved to lose because its lyrics are generic, despite the fact that the winner was even more generic, and only won because the voters can’t think for themselves and just voted for the obvious choice. An exact repeat of 2015.

    The Dolby Theater should have those little remotes they give to the audience on game shows, so they can vote on the category after the performances 😀

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    This is such an interesting category because there was the year Sam Smith won the Globe and everyone was predicting Gaga, but then the Oscars played it safe and gave it to Sam Smith for another James Bond movie.

    I think it is possible they play it safe and just give it to Pasek and Paul again.

    Again, they voted for a movie they knew. In fact, more people probably saw the Bond than the other 4 nominees combined (including 2 docs, no less). There’s no mystery about that.

    And there is nothing safer than voting for a Disney pic–a film with more nominations that also made more money.

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    PJ Edwards
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    I’m predicting This is Me because it is the theme song of the Olympics. I have honestly never heard the Coco song anywhere. I think the CMBYN has a good chance and the Common song is trying to latch on to metoo. So competitive race.

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    I’m going with Mystery of Love because of its guild win.

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