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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.I get where the user who posted the thread is coming from, Albert Nobbs was a passion project for Glenn Close and she was good in it despite the film overall not being that noteworthy so that nomination somewhat makes sense.
When The Wife came about that’s when people started to really focus on the fact that Glenn had been nominated so many times without a win and her overdue narrative started then, Again the film wasn’t that good other than Glenn and Johnathan Pryce but everybody at this point just wanted to see her win an Oscar.
And Hillbilly Elegy as we know was a huge critical flop but now the narrative of Glenn being so good and overdue means she was still able to get a nom despite the film being a flop.
I don’t think this is really an offensive question to be asking and I don’t see why people want this thread shut down because she has gotten more noms in the last 10 years than people who have been is a lot of highly praised successful films and could be seen as in the prime of their careers.
ReplyCopy URLWhy are people taking issue with this thread? As someone who is a fan of Glenn Close (although not in Hillbilly Elegy…) I don’t see any issue with asking this question?
Between Albert Nobbs and Hillbilly Elegy, Close has only starred in eleven films (I am excluding uncredited cameos). Some of these have been genre films that were either complete flops or Guardians of the Galaxy and the rest have been obscure comedies no one has ever heard of. So it is quite interesting who she’s been nominated for almost a third of the films she’s done in 10 years.
What both Albert Nobbs and The Wife share in common is that they were passion projects of Close and she delivered acclaimed performances in both in spite of them having fairly average (or in Albert Nobbs‘ case mixed) reviews.
Hillbilly Elegy is a different case where a film attracts attention for its pedigree, is a big commercial and critical flop but then one performance from the film attracts some attention because of the person who gives it and actors extend their sympathies to that performer and throw a “thank you” nod at SAG to them. An example of this is Nicole Kidman for The Paperboy. The only reason Close got the Oscar nomination was because of the weak field.
ReplyCopy URLThe only reason Close got the Oscar nomination was because of the weak field.
I think this was the most competitive year in Supporting Actress I’ve seen in my 7 years following awards races. They could easily have snubbed Glenn, since there were other options besides her. She was nominated because many people liked her performance. Maybe not you or me, but I think many voters did.
ReplyCopy URLI think this was the most competitive year in Supporting Actress I’ve seen in my 7 years following awards races.
If it was the most competitive year then Maria Bakalova, Ellen Burstyn, Glenn Close, Jodie Foster and Amanda Seyfried would not have been in the conversation for the nomination at all.
It may have been difficult to predict the nominations because the weaker playing field opened the field up more but it was from a strong competitive field.
ReplyCopy URLHillbilly Elegy is a different case where a film attracts attention for its pedigree, is a big commercial and critical flop but then one performance from the film attracts some attention because of the person who gives it and actors extend their sympathies to that performer and throw a “thank you” nod at SAG to them. An example of this is Nicole Kidman for The Paperboy. The only reason Close got the Oscar nomination was because of the weak field.
That’s a gross mischaracterization of why Close was nominated. There were no “sympathies” held by one of the most unsympathetic awards bodies out there. She could have easily been snubbed, but wasn’t. Multiple voting bodies found worth in this particular performance, whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.
ReplyCopy URLIf it was the most competitive year then Maria Bakalova, Ellen Burstyn, Glenn Close, Jodie Foster and Amanda Seyfried would not have been in the conversation for the nomination at all.
So this was a weak year because there were more competitors than usual? I don’t get it.
The Best Actress race was weak, because there weren’t any strong options besides the five women who were nominated. I can’t say the same about Supporting Actress.
They could’ve nominated veterans like Ellen Burstyn and Jodie Foster, who were both in better films than Glenn’s, or a young ingenue in a BP nominee like Dominique Fishback. But they still choose Glenn in a panned film. She could easily have been snubbed.
I didn’t want her to be nominated for this, but many people liked her performance. It’s baity, it’s showy and she’s a beloved actress. She’s there because voters genuinely wanted her to be there.
ReplyCopy URLSo this was a weak year because there were more competitors than usual? I don’t get it.
When you have a field where usual big studio Oscar tentpoles are ineligible and it’s hard to predict who will get nominated because each contender (barring one or two) are lagging in passion and conventionality, then yes it’s a weak field.
That’s a gross mischaracterization of why Close was nominated. There were no “sympathies” held by one of the most unsympathetic awards bodies out there. She could have easily been snubbed, but wasn’t. Multiple voting bodies found worth in this particular performance, whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.
Great could you tell me what will happen on the next season of Ozark as well?
This thread posed a question and I gave my response to it. It’s perfectly fine if you disagree but there’s no need to try and throw a tantrum at someone who god forbids suggests there were other reasons at play for why one of your favourite performances this year got nominated (as there is with every single performance nominated at every single awards show almost every year).
There is no evidence that voting bodies found worth in Close’s performance (especially when she was snubbed by two). Just like there is admittedly little evidence to back up what I’ve said about why she got nominated this year (apart from the fact that we’ve seen a nomination like this before happen at SAG). There’s no need to condemn someone from having a different opinion to yourself.
ReplyCopy URLThere is no evidence that voting bodies found worth in Close’s performance (especially when she was snubbed by two).
I mean, she only tanked at the BAFTAs. And that was with a jury. Yes, she tanked with the AACTAs but lets be honest, their track record in that category is a complete trainwreck.
Just like you, I also did not like her performance that much, even though I think the hate its been getting is way ott. But saying there’s no evidence her peers found worth in her performance, when she got in at SAG and the Oscars, is a bit dumb no? Why would she get nominated if her peers disliked her performance or did not find worth in it?
ReplyCopy URLI was responding to your snide, backhanded accusations against Close.
Saying (after acknowledging at the beginning of my post that I’m a Glenn Close fan) that there may have been other factors that helped her get a nomination (as there are with pretty much almost every other acting nominee this year and every year) means one is throwing a snide and backhanded accusation against Close?
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