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  • Malcolm Dunbar
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    I was watching A Beautiful Mind recently, and it came to me that he was considered the front runner for Best Actor in 2001/2002, the award eventually went to Denzel but Crowe won many precursors including the Critics Award, Golden Globe, BAFTA and SAG – setting up for a clean sweep. Additionally he was nominated for three years consecutively and seemed poised to pull a Tom Hanks for back to back consecutive wins in the Best Actor category.

    This leads me to his altercations, violent outbursts and associated controversies from 1999 to 2005, all of which seem to have cost him greatly over the years on the award circuit. The most notable of the four incidents is the one at BAFTA in which he reportedly did the following:

    Last week, the bearded star pinned the TV producer against a wall, launched into a verbal tirade and declared that Gerrie would “never work in Hollywood”, after the BBC cut part of Crowe’s speech from the Bafta broadcast.

    Quote from the Guardian.

    After his nomination for a Beautiful Mind he hasn’t been nominated since. Even for baity work such as Cinderella Man, Les Miserables, American Gangster and Master & Commander – all which had at least some level of critical acclaim and award buy in.

    My question is could Crowe have been a Daniel Day Lewis by now, or was he always destined for only one or two victories at max?

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    distain
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    Interesting question.

    I think he’d have maxed out at 5 nominations and 2 wins. He might have happened as a nomination for Cinderella Man if not for the phone throwing incident. But he was never happening for American Gangster (Denzel got the stronger reviews, and even he couldn’t happen) and his reviews for Les Miserables were actually quite poor. So many reviews said he basically couldn’t sing.

    He fell off pretty badly since 2007. Can’t really see any situation where he’d really even be nominated for. DDL probably has the right idea not to work too much, if Crowe’s trajectory is anything to go by.

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    jasonface
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    Master and Commander should have happened with all the other nominations the film received that year. And he should have won. But that’s about all I can really think of.

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    Pulp
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    Yeah he’d probably have a couple more nominations, and if Mel Gibson can get nominated again, I’m sure Crowe will too.

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    Anonymous
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    If it wasn’t for that BAFTA incident he would have had two Oscars and one or two more nominations. If you want a golden dildo you have to behave yourself

    But he’ll be fine. Just look at Mel Gibson. They’re very forgivable. But only if you’re a man. And he’s a man so expect nomination coming his way sooner or later. Maybe Boy Erased will do the trick.

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    M: The Original
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    I don’t miss Crowe. He’s a bully to civilians.

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    Elazul
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    He was so bad in Les Miserables.

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    TheRedBoy
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    I think perhaps he could’ve won for A Beautiful Mind, but I’m not sure about other nominations. A Master & Commander nomination might’ve been possible, but Johnny Depp was also in the mix for Pirates of the Caribbean that year and I doubt they would’ve nominated two ship captain performances.

    I suppose I don’t have to worry about his presence in Boy Erased hurting the film’s chances; Les Miserables scored plenty of nominations and wins despite him.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    People talk as if he’s been blacklisted or something. He’s been in a Superman film, a Mummy film that was supposed to start a huge franchise, Miserables, Gangster, Master and Commander and Cinderella Man, among othets. Huge projects that a blacklisted or even an actor people don’t like so much would have never gotten.

    He maybe would’ve won for Beautiful Mind. It’s pretty much the only result that changed from that incident. Just two years later he was back with a 10 time nominated film for which he was probably 6th or 7th in line for Best Actor.

    He hasn’t done anything worthy since except maybe Cinderella Man. But that’s not a bad thing or a direct result of the incident. Even behaved people just never get nominated again. What was Tom Hanks’ cellphone incident?

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    Malcolm Dunbar
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    I don’t think he has been blacklisted – I merely wanted to have a discussion surrounding what effect (if any) his incidents had on his award potential. Looking objectively, it looks like at the very least it cost him Best Actor in 2002 if you review the precursors. It also stands to reason that it seems to have cost him again in other races, as he has again never been nominated for any other work that seemed to have buzz and award potential.

    Ultimately that what I wanted to discuss, if these incidents were key in him seemingly never being nominated ever again for his work, even when there seemed to be support for them.

    With Tom Hanks it seems like he has just been naturally aged out of the nomination process by the Academy. There’s no clear reason as to why, with Russel there does seem to be a reason for why the Academy doesn’t want to nominate him any longer.

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    M: The Original
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    Likability may matter less for men than it does women. But it still matters when you have competitors for your position in the business. Is Clooney really a better actor than Crowe?

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    distain
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    I don’t think he has been blacklisted – I merely wanted to have a discussion surrounding what effect (if any) his incidents had on his award potential. Looking objectively, it looks like at the very least it cost him Best Actor in 2002 if you review the precursors. It also stands to reason that it seems to have cost him again in other races, as he has again never been nominated for any other work that seemed to have buzz and award potential.

    Ultimately that what I wanted to discuss, if these incidents were key in him seemingly never being nominated ever again for his work, even when there seemed to be support for them.

    With Tom Hanks it seems like he has just been naturally aged out of the nomination process by the Academy. There’s no clear reason as to why, with Russel there does seem to be a reason for why the Academy doesn’t want to nominate him any longer.

    If Crowe had actually done something people were really passionate about after Cinderella Man, I think he’d have been more than capable of being nominated. Yes, he threw a phone at someone, but incidents like that get forgotten pretty quickly. Sean Penn was beating up photographers and doing jail time for assualt when he was younger, and he ended up winning 2 oscars. I honestly think Cinderella Man is the only possible nomination he lost out on due to his behavior. It would have been forgotten about the next time he gave a performance that they really loved.

    Crowe simply hasn’t had a performance that’s had enough passion behind it for a long time. And he’s made a lot of films. He’s very quickly gone from superstar leading man to almost a competent journeyman character actor. His performance reviews seemed to have gotten a lot weaker over the years as well. I mean, he’s just been nominated for a Razzie for The Mummy.

    His best recieved performance in years was for The Nice Guys, and even then Ryan Gosling got better reviews. Crowe is just a classic example of a guy who had an excellent peak period, but sort of misplaced his mojo and has yet to recover it. He’s adds value as a name to a project, but no one gets particularly excited by his acting anymore. If he wants to get nominated again, he needs to dig deeper and give a performance people can’t ignore.

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    I think he was vulnerable to losing the Beautiful Mind Oscar even without BAFTA. He had just won the year before, Denzel had never won a Best Actor, and there was the whole historical aspect of awarding Halle Berry and Denzel together.

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