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    Was anybody else under that impression? I don’t know how that got in my head. I thought he won two for the first Rocky.

    I wonder if voters think that.  

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    jamiepg88
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    Yeah I have an image in my head of him on stage holding an Oscar back in the day. Maybe he was up there to accept picture even though he wasn’t a listed winner? Or I imagined it, either way I too was surprised by the overdue narrative thing

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    The producers for the movie made Stallone go up to accept with them because the movie was his idea but Stallone wasn’t a producer so he got no Oscar. I believe that snub is a huge factor in him being a favorite this year, as Rocky is a beloved movie franchise and I don’t think the old geezers in the academy have ever forgotten stallone’s snub

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    Stallone was nominated for Best Actor lost to Peter Finch, “Network” and Best Original Screenplay lost to Paddy Chayefsky, “Network”. As mentioned above he went on stage with Chartoff and Winkler the producers of “Rocky”. Which back in the day was not a tradition of the Oscars for the cast and or/ cast member to go up on stage when their film wins best picture. This seems to be more of a traditional of late. 

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    Rev Scott: love your name! from Poseidon right? 

    Welcome to the site!! 

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    Personally, I’ve never much understood all the love for the Rocky franchise.  I tried watching the first one a couple times and couldn’t make it past 10-15 minutes.   I found it to be so utterly unwatchable. Between Stallones absolutely wooden acting and the miserable, frankly wretched characters and the insipid and cliched writing.    

    Frankly, I’m not much for sports movies anyway.

    But yes, I had also thought this as well.   Frankly, I was surprised at all the praise for Creed.   I kind of thought it was an unneccessary sequel to a franchise i’d like to see ended once and for all. 

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    I absolutely adored “Creed” and rank it among my top three pictures of 2015. That being said, I actually revisited the first “Rocky” recently and didn’t think it held up well at all. Stallone’s performance is terrific but the writing and direction are clunky (the Avildsen win is just bizarre) and supporting actors are so dreary, in particular Burt Young, who has to be among the worst Best Supporting Actor nominees of all-time. In hindsight, I think I actually prefer most of the series’ sequels, which, while very silly, are at least fun.

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    Personally, I’ve never much understood all the love for the Rocky franchise.  I tried watching the first one a couple times and couldn’t make it past 10-15 minutes.   I found it to be so utterly unwatchable. Between Stallones absolutely wooden acting and the miserable, frankly wretched characters and the insipid and cliched writing.    

    Frankly, I’m not much for sports movies anyway.

    But yes, I had also thought this as well.   Frankly, I was surprised at all the praise for Creed.   I kind of thought it was an unneccessary sequel to a franchise i’d like to see ended once and for all. 

    I think if you understand the context of the film in the times in which is was told it probably explains some peoples love for it. 1976 we were still coming out of Nam and Watergate; the economy had had a bad recession and an oil crisis. The “lingering malaise” Jimmy Carter would so in advisedly talk of was taking hold. This was a film about an Everyman getting his shot and taking it and even if he didn’t with the match, winning in life. I think a lot of what you call cliche is that way now as a result of deriving for films like this. A lot of what frustrates people who don’t view films within the context of their time is that even not particularly good ones find a way to play on a cultural zeitgeist that may be transient.

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    Rev Scott: love your name! from Poseidon right? 

    Welcome to the site!! 

    Thanks for the welcome ! yes, Gene Hackman’s character from “The Poseisdon Adventure”.  

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    [quote=”Boidiva02″]

    Personally, I’ve never much understood all the love for the Rocky franchise.  I tried watching the first one a couple times and couldn’t make it past 10-15 minutes.   I found it to be so utterly unwatchable. Between Stallones absolutely wooden acting and the miserable, frankly wretched characters and the insipid and cliched writing.    

    Frankly, I’m not much for sports movies anyway.

    But yes, I had also thought this as well.   Frankly, I was surprised at all the praise for Creed.   I kind of thought it was an unneccessary sequel to a franchise i’d like to see ended once and for all. 

    I think if you understand the context of the film in the times in which is was told it probably explains some peoples love for it. 1976 we were still coming out of Nam and Watergate; the economy had had a bad recession and an oil crisis. The “lingering malaise” Jimmy Carter would so in advisedly talk of was taking hold. This was a film about an Everyman Getting his shot and taking it and even if he didn’t with the match, winning in life. I think a lot of what you call cliche is that way now as a result of deriving for films like this. A lot of what frustrates people who don’t view films within the context of their time is that even not particularly good ones find a way to play on a cultural zeitgeist that may be transient.
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    Man, did you nail it. “Rocky” had the best narrative of the five nominated films. It was the big crowd pleaser, that everyone could relate to. Plus, you had Stallone’s own story about a struggling actor that wrote the screenplay and managed to get it made. Even though “Network”,”All the Presidents Men”, and “Taxi Driver” were in my opinion far better films that still hold up today.”Rocky” was the safe and popular choice. How could they resist Stallone wrapped in the American flag with his arm up in a bicentenial year.  I would have picked “Network”.  1976 reminded me a lot of 2005 where the Academy ended up picking the less offensive, safer choice  over the more daring, devisive, and better films nominated that year, 
     

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