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    The other thread about Oscar outrages got me thinking….(I love this stuff!)

    Seems like either Nicholson or Pacino would have won it. Nicholson got the Globe. Hard to say who would have taken it. But either way I think it would have had a ripple effect.

    So if Nicholson won then I’d guess Pacino would have won the next year for Dog Day Afternoon….then what would have happened with Pacino in Scent of a Woman? I think Denzel might have taken it that year for Malcolm X….then what about Training Day? Would Russell Crowe have taken that one?

    and it is so odd that Carney won. He never had much of a film career prior to this. I guess the thinking is he had that one good scene in the car talking to the cat and that was enough to get him the votes.

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    I agree thanks BlueRay for so much info!!

    On Imdb it says Pacino refused to attend the ceremony in 72 for The Godfather because he felt he was in the wrong category. I don’t know if that is true but if it is it could add to the fear that he may not accept the award.

    Interesting how Ellen Burstyn is also in Harry and Tonto and she won Best Actress that year (and didn’t attend)

    Interesting side note: Art Carney created the role of Felix Unger on Broadway that Jack Lemmon played in the movie.

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    I still say that to this day, Pacino got hustled for The Godfather Part II and Dog Day Afternoon, even though Jack Nicholson deserved his One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest award.

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    This ranks up there as one of my least favorite best actor wins ever. I think that Pacino or Jack should have won

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    I’m reasonably confident Nicholson was runner-up – and indeed, if that’s the case, Pacino probably triumphs the following year. Does Washington win in ’92 though? That I’m not so sure of, given the chilly reception Malcolm X otherwise received from the Academy.

    (For what it’s worth, I’d have voted for Pacino but the unsympathetic nature of Michael in the film, coupled with the actor’s protesting of the Supporting placement for the first picture, couldn’t have helped him with voters.)

    THE OSCAR 100 (#75-71): Agnes Moorehead, Piper Laurie, Sissy Spacek, Barbara Stanwyck and Jean Hagen

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    It would have opened the door for a much sooner, much more deserving, Oscar win for Al Pacino before 1992.

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    Since it was Chinatown, I guess Nicholson would’ve won. He would’ve also won the following year.

    After consecutive nods like these, I think it was between him and Pacino. However, I don’t think Pacino would’ve won for Godfather Part II. Even as a huge fan of both films, I wouldn’t have voted Pacino for either one. And yes, he was a Lead Actor for Part I.

    Had Pacino won, I think he would’ve won again for Scent of a Woman. Or perhaps having already won, the narrative shifts towards Washington from the start and Pacino is only a nominee.

    But I think Nicholson would’ve won. He would be a 4 time winner now as I don’t think a Chinatown win takes away the other three.

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    I’m reasonably confident Nicholson was runner-up – and indeed, if that’s the case, Pacino probably triumphs the following year. Does Washington win in ’92 though? That I’m not so sure of, given the chilly reception Malcolm X otherwise received from the Academy.

    (For what it’s worth, I’d have voted for Pacino but the unsympathetic nature of Michael in the film, coupled with the actor’s protesting of the Supporting placement for the first picture, couldn’t have helped him with voters.)

    THE OSCAR 100 (#75-71): Agnes Moorehead, Piper Laurie, Sissy Spacek, Barbara Stanwyck and Jean Hagen

    Andrew,

    do you know how verbal Pacino was about not liking being in supporting?

    it says here on his imdb page that he protested it. They usually don’t print stuff like that there on the award’s list.

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000199/awards?ref_=nm_awd

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