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If Marion Cotillard would be American, would she have more Oscar nominations and wins?

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    I think most of us believe that it’s a joke itself that after many years of her Oscar, Cotillard couldn’t get more than one Oscar nomination, even if the fact is that she’s having one or two Oscar-worthy performances each year. 

    Is it because she’s french and Hollywood don’t treat her like it own? Because sometimes I feel that way. They give Meryl Streep a nomination for all forgettable performances (“Doubt” “August: Osage County”) – but they don’t reward Marion, for performances like hers in “Rust and Bone” “Nine” “The immigrant” “Midnight in Paris” “Public Enemies” or even for “Inception”. 

    I’m really happy that this year she’s included for her beautiful performance in “Two Days, One Night”, but I think she deserves more nominations and even another win soon. Good work should be rewarded. “Macbeth”, maybe? 

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    Actually Marion hasn’t been snubbed by the Academy big time. Yes, Meryl has some nominations for forgettable performances. But most actors do. And you make it sound as if she has been given undeserved nominations all the time, which isn’t the case. And Meryl has been snubbed in terms of wins for so many great performances that the whole backlash simply isn’t fair. This is the Streeper talking. I needed to get it out. Now on to Marion: she’s a terrific actress but most of the performances you mention simply aren’t deserving of nominations – Public Enemies, Inception and Midnight In Paris are nowhere near Oscar-worthy performances. She was absolutely average in all three and the language barrier does a lot of damage in her case. Of her performances in English, only Nine is closer to a being worthy of a nomination and she would have been nominated, had Weinstein been wiser and campaigned her where she belonged (in supporting). I believe that her campaign category confusion problem was the reason for her snub. If I remember correctly, she was campaigned in lead until mid-season and then they jumped her to supporting, finally realizing that she had no chance in lead where the top five contenders were probably set in stone by early January. I believe she got votes in both leading and supporting but not enough votes. And of course, Cruz’s role was a Tony magnet on Broadway and she hits all the right buttons in terms of award prospects. But well, Weinstein was greedy and he believed he could get nominations for his stars in both leading and supporting, which was insane, given the reaction the film got. Rust & Bone was worthy of a nomination (and I’m sad she didn’t get one) but it happened in a very crowded year and yes, I prefer Riva by a mile for what was a brilliant performance. Not that all of the nominated performances were better. This is not the case. But there was no way they were snubbing Lawrence to nominated Marion. This is the sad reality of the Oscars.
    The Immigrant – well, she can’t get two nominations. 
    And here comes the thing – I was rooting for Marion in 2007. For reasons other than the performance and now I feel guilty about that. Julie Christie should have won that Oscar. It’s a performance that stays with you. A character that stays with you. Cotillard was very good but in the long term, Christie had more of an impact on me.

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    Noé
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    I would like to say no but…

    I think is more about her films and its campaigns rather than she being not american.

    De Rouille et D’os, almost made it, perhaps the closest one – french film. Nine, she was campaigned as lead, right? Poor strategy, not so great performance, shame of a film; The Immigrant, oh you little sh*t Harvey; Midnight in Paris – Internal competition? Not so outstanding? Limited screen time?; Public Enemies, disappointing film and early release; Inception, she needed a freakin strong push campaign and they gave her nothing!

    Macbeth could be the one. Anyway, sooner or later she’s going to win another and in the road gonna collect multiple nominations. She has it all.

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    If she was an American or even spoke English as her first language, an actress of her talent and caliber would easily get all the plump leading roles which means much more Oscar nominations for sure. She’d have been what Jessica Chastain has become, only 10 years prior.

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    It depends. If she were an American, and makes more English-language vehicle, then she would have more chance of being nominated.
    but if she instead still making foreign movie, the chances decrease.
    I love Marion, but no matter how great she is, foreign movies are hard to get an acting nomination from. 

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    Choice Chayawat
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    If she were American, then she wouldn’t have gotten the roles in La Vie en Rose, Rust and Bone and Two Days, One Night in the first place. And Midnight in Paris, Public Enemies and Inception were not bound to score any acting nominations regardless of who ended up playing Cotillard’s roles.

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    M: The Original
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    Hollywood likes to vote for itself. These awards are about their own self-interest. So actors who work primarily in a foreign language are often ignored due to a preference from voters who are uninterested in reading subtitles to comprehend the movie they’re watching. Yes, Marion Cotillard is a worthy potential nominee for her English language efforts. But she is also special for being nominated exclusively for foreign language roles.

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    Keth
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    Maybe, but she has an Oscar (which is very hard to get) and is a nominee this year.  Although I was pulling for Christie, I can’t deny that Cotillard’s reaction to her name being called and her acceptance speech were priceless.  And it was a great performance!

    Glad to see her back on the list of nominees..

    p.s. I can’t wait to hear Julianne Moore’s speech.. finally!!!

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    babypook
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    This is one of my pet peeves, really. I dont think it’s because she’s “French”. I think it’s because she speaks French in her films.

    “I dont like FLF because I have to read the subtitles and I cant concentrate on the movie”

    “I dont watch FLF because I’d have to watch them twice; first to see what happens and then to read what they are saying”

    “FLF’s are boring”

    “I dont like listening to gobbledeegook”

    I adore some of the people who have made these chronically ill-advised comments, but inside, I’m thinking sweetie, can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

     

     
     

    Anyways, no, I dont think it’s because she’s French. Hopefully the audiences have forgotten that phase of “American Fries”. But I think this applies to all terrific actors appearing in films where English is not spoken.

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    This is one of my pet peeves, really. I dont think it’s because she’s “French”. I think it’s because she speaks French in her films.

    “I dont like FLF because I have to read the subtitles and I cant concentrate on the movie”

    “I dont watch FLF because I’d have to watch them twice; first to see what happens and then to read what they are saying”

    “FLF’s are boring”

    “I dont like listening to gobbledeegook”

    I adore some of the people who have made these chronically ill-advised comments, but inside, I’m thinking sweetie, can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

     

     

    I’d tell ’em that if I were you. Just wondering, were any of them Oscar voters?

     

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     I adore some of the people who have made these chronically ill-advised comments, but inside, I’m thinking sweetie, can you walk and chew gum at the same time. 

    I would give you an standing ovation. 

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    Pavel Romanov
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    If she were British, she’d have more nominations.

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    Some of those films wouldn’t have garnered nominations for any actress of any nationality. “Public Enemies,” “Inception,” “Midnight in Paris,” etc. all come to mind. And non-American nationality didn’t stop Penelope Cruz from getting nominated for “Nine” (coattail nomination after Oscar win also taken into account). Beyond that, the rest of her snubs can be explained well enough. She could have very well been sixth place for “Rust & Bone” in a very odd Oscar year (Globes/SAG/BAFTA nods = Oscars snub?). “The Immigrant” was masterful yet was given a lackluster and downright bothed Weinstein treatment. That groundswell paved the way for her “Two Days, One Night” second nomination. Voters have to like her to some degree to award her against the odds for her stellar “La Vie en Rose” performance. Maybe she would have had more opportunities for roles most American actresses are receiving that could net her nominations, but that’s another very speculative discussion. For what has actually happened for Marion Cotillard’s awards runs, I think things are explanable enough. Her career is in a fine place right now with one of the best post-Oscar trajectories on record. Can’t wait for “Macbeth” next for her!

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    So if you really want to know my thinking about if Marion Cotillard would be American, would she have more Oscar Nominations and Wins, then i will tell you that yes of course why not. Marion Cotillard is a French Actress, Singer, Song Writer, Environmentlist as well as Spokes Person for Green Pease. She was Born on September 30, 1975 in Paris, France. She is already Won Academy Award for best Actress.

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