If the Gendered Acting Categories Merged

[wolfali Joined: Sep 4th, 2018 Topics: 181 Posts: 19005 View Predictions]

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If lead and supporting categories were merged with one another (thereby disbanding gendered categories). Who do you think would have been nominated.

– 5 nominees still
– There has to be at least one male and one female performer nominated

How I think it would have ended up under these circumstances:

Lead

2019: Adam Driver, Scarlett Johansson, Joaquin Phoenix, Saoirse Ronan, Renée Zellweger
2018: Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, Glenn Close, Olivia Colman, Rami Malek
2017: Timothee Chalamet, Sally Hawkins, Frances McDormand, Gary Oldman, Saoirse Ronan
2016: Casey Affleck, Ryan Gosling, Isabelle Huppert, Natalie Portman, Emma Stone
2015: Cate Blanchett, Matt Damon, Leonardo DiCaprio, Michael Fassbender, Brie Larson
2014: Benedict Cumberbatch, Michael Keaton, Julianne Moore, Eddie Redmayne, Reese Witherspoon
2013: Christian Bale, Cate Blanchett, Leonardo DiCaprio, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Matthew McC0naughey
2012: Bradley Cooper, Jessica Chastain, Daniel Day-Lewis, Jennifer Lawrence, Emmanuelle Riva
2011: George Clooney, Viola Davis, Jean Dujardin, Meryl Streep, Michelle Williams
2010: Annette Bening, Jesse Eisenberg, Colin Firth, Jennifer Lawrence, Natalie Portman

Supporting

2019: Laura Dern, Scarlett Johansson, Brad Pitt, Florence Pugh, Margot Robbie
2018: Amy Adams, Mahershala Ali, Regina King, Emma Stone, Rachel Weisz
2017: Willem Dafoe, Woody Harrelson, Alison Janney, Laurie Metcalf, Sam Rockwell
2016: Mahershala Ali, Viola Davis, Naomie Harris, Dev Patel, Michelle Williams
2015: Christian Bale, Rooney Mara, Mark Rylance, Alicia Vikander, Kate Winslet
2014: Patricia Arquette, Ethan Hawke, Edward Norton, J.K. Simmons, Emma Stone
2013: Barkhad Abdi, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence, Lupita Nyong’o, June Squibb
2012: Amy Adams, Anne Hathaway,  Tommy Lee Jones, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Christoph Waltz
2011: Berenice Bejo, Jessica Chastain, Melissa McCarthy, Christopher Plummer, Octavia Spencer
2010: Amy Adams, Christian Bale, Helena Bonham Carter, Melissa Leo, Geoffrey Rush

FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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[Melvinezq Joined: Aug 7th, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 574 View Predictions]

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This feels like TCA Individual Achievement, but for film. I like it. However, since it’s unclear that how this should be done (whether based on quality or award chance), I don’t think I can give my personal ranking.

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[wolfali Joined: Sep 4th, 2018 Topics: 181 Posts: 19005 View Predictions]

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Melvinezq wrote:

This feels like TCA Individual Achievement, but for film. I like it. However, since it’s unclear that how this should be done (whether based on quality or award chance),

Hi!

Sorry I should have offered more clarity. Awards chance.

FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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[markwahlbird Joined: Feb 15th, 2019 Topics: 12 Posts: 95 View Predictions]

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2019:

• Joaquin Phoenix, Renée Zellweger, Adam Driver, Scarlett Johansson, Leonardo DiCaprio
• Brad Pitt, Laura Dern, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci, Tom Hanks

2018:

• Rami Malek, Olivia Colman, Glenn Close, Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper
• Mahershala Ali, Regina King, Richard E. Grant, Sam Elliott, Rachel Weisz

2017:

• Frances McDormand, Gary Oldman, Timothée Chalamet, Daniel Day-Lewis, Sally Hawkins
• Sam Rockwell, Allison Janney, Willem Dafoe, Laurie Metcalf, Richard Jenkins

2016:

• Casey Affleck, Emma Stone, Denzel Washington, Natalie Portman, Isabelle Huppert
• Viola Davis, Mahershala Ali, Dev Patel, Jeff Bridges, Michelle Williams

2015:

• Leonardo DiCaprio, Brie Larson, Matt Damon, Cate Blanchett, Eddie Redmayne
• Alicia Vikander, Mary Rylance, Sylvester Stallone, Rooney Mara, Mark Ruffalo

2014:

• Eddie Redmayne, Julianne Moore, Michael Keaton, Benedict Cumberbatch, Steve Carell
• J.K. Simmons, Patricia Arquette, Edward Norton, Ethan Hawke, Emma Stone

2013:

• Cate Blanchett, Matthew McConaughey, Leonardo DiCaprio, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Judi Dench
• Lupita Nyong’o, Jared Leto, Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender, Barkhad Abdi

2012:

• Daniel Day-Lewis, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, Hugh Jackman, Jessica Chastain
• Anne Hathaway, Christoph Waltz, Tommy Lee Jones, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Robert De Niro

2011:

• Jean Dujardin, Meryl Streep, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Viola Davis
• Octavia Spencer, Christopher Plummer, Jessica Chastain, Bérénice Bejo, Kenneth Branagh

2010:

• Colin Firth, Natalie Portman, Jesse Eisenberg, James Franco, Annette Bening
• Christian Bale, Melissa Leo, Geoffrey Rush, Amy Adams, Mark Ruffalo

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[Zuranthium Joined: Dec 9th, 2014 Topics: 0 Posts: 159 View Predictions]

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Whelp, things would get pretty ugly. There would be even more category fraud than usual and I estimate 62% of the nominees and 64% of the winners would be Male. I went back to 1975 for this thought experiment; considering history it might be even more Male-centric going further back (although this past decade looks like it would have a horrible stat of 75% male winners).

A bunch of females who were winners or big frontrunners (like Glenn Close in 2018) wouldn’t even be nominated, because they would have no win buzz without separate categories, and their movies and/or roles would be too small to gain enough traction. Julianne Moore, a 5-time nominee and a winner, would likely become a 1-time nominee. Amy Adams, 6-time nominee, the same fate. Acting legends like Maggie Smith, Vanessa Redgrave, and Jessica Lange, would very possibly just become 1-time nominees. Meryl Streep would be fine though, I see 13 nominations and 2 wins for her; she would still gain the nomination record.

2019:

• Joaquin Phoenix, Adam Driver, Scarlett Johansson, Renee Zellweger, Leonardo DiCaprio
• Brad Pitt, Laura Dern, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci, Anthony Hopkins

2018:

• Rami Malek, Christian Bale, Lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper, Viggo Mortensen
• Mahershala Ali, Olivia Colman *(I don’t think they let her go Lead in this circumstance, Emma Stone goes there instead)*, Rachel Weisz, Richard E. Grant, Adam Driver

2017:

• Frances McDormand, Gary Oldman, Timothee Chalamet, Daniel Day-Lewis, Daniel Kaluuya
• Sam Rockwell, Allison Janney, Laurie Metcalf, Christopher Plummer, Woody Harrelson

2016:

• Denzel Washington *(not having won before, he would be a mortal lock)*, Casey Affleck, Emma Stone, Ryan Gosling, Natalie Portman
• Viola Davis, Jeff Bridges, Dev Patel, Michelle Williams, Naomie Harris *(the baitiest Moonlight role; makes sense as the main campaign push here)*

2015:

• Leonardo DiCaprio, Brie Larson, Bryan Cranston, Cate Blanchett, Eddie Redmayne
• Mark Rylance, Sylvester Stallone, Mark Ruffalo, Christian Bale, Alicia Vikander

2014: (this could be a historically bad year for representation, it was already an #OscarsSoWhite year, but with the perceived competitiveness of the sole Lead category, I think everyone who possibly could would go supporting, which means more Best Actor contenders actually get nominated than before and only one woman is nominated)

• Eddie Redmayne, Michael Keaton, Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper, Jake Gyllenhaal
• J.K. Simmons, Steve Carell, Patricia Arquette, Ralph Fiennes, Edward Norton

2013:

• Cate Blanchett, Matthew McConaughey, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Leonardo DiCaprio, Judi Dench
• Jared Leto, Jennifer Lawrence, Lupita Nyong’o, Bruce Dern, Barkhad Abdi

2012:

• Daniel Day-Lewis, Bradley Cooper, Jessica Chastain, Emmanuelle Riva, Hugh Jackman
• Jennifer Lawrence, Christoph Waltz, Anne Hathaway, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Alan Arkin

2011:

• Jean Dujardin, Viola Davis *(without the Halle Berry win this becomes a possible historic moment; not sure it happens though)*, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Meryl Streep
• Octavia Spencer, Berenice Bejo, Jessica Chastain, Christopher Plummer, Nick Nolte

2010:

• Colin Firth, Natalie Portman, James Franco, Jeff Bridges, Annette Bening
• Christian Bale, Geoffrey Rush, Melissa Leo,  Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner

2009:

• George Clooney *(without winning in 2005 he gets it here)*, Jeff Bridges, Colin Firth, Brad Pitt *(without having been nominated before, there’s a huge push to get him in here)*, Jeremy Renner
• Christoph Waltz, Mo’Nique, Meryl Streep *(yep they’d go for supporting)*, Woody Harrelson, Melanie Laurent *(wouldn’t be campaigned Lead)*

2008: (I think Winslet still wins? She has the better narrative over Sean Penn, who already won in 2003)

• Kate Winslet, Sean Penn, Mickey Rourke, Frank Langella, Meryl Streep
• Heath Ledger, Cate Blanchett *(probably goes supporting, and would have a lot of support after missing in 2007 and not winning yet)*, Penelope Cruz, Marisa Tomei, Josh Brolin

2007:

• Daniel Day-Lewis, Julie Christie, George Clooney, Marion Cotillard, Ellen Page
• Javier Bardem, Tommy Lee Jones *(would be more due for recognition in this altered history)*, Keira Knightley *(should have gone supporting anyway, now it would be clear)*, Tilda Swinton, Hal Holbrook

2006: (I think there’s a big push for Streep to win supporting for Devil Wears Prada since she would currently only have 1 Oscar, not sure who wins between Whitaker and Mirren, probably should guess the male with the showier role)

• Forest Whitaker, Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Leonardo DiCaprio *(for The Departed; there would be less incentive to try for noms in both categories)*, Will Smith
• Meryl Streep, Jennifer Hudson, Jack Nicholson *(The Departed campaign would focus on him as the main supporting player now)*, Cate Blanchett, Eddie Murphy

2005:

• Philip Seymour Hoffman, Heath Ledger, David Strathairn, Joaquin Phoenix, Felicity Huffman
• Reese Witherspoon, Rachel Weisz, Jake Gyllenhaal, Matt Dillon, George Clooney

2004:

• Jamie Foxx, Hilary Swank, Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Don Cheadle
• Morgan Freeman (ughhh), Cate Blanchett, Thomas Haden Church, Virginia Madsen, Clive Owen

2003:

• Sean Penn, Charlize Theron, Bill Murray, Johnny Depp, Diane Keaton
• Tim Robbins, Renee Zellweger, Holly Hunter, Alec Baldwin, Ken Watanabe

2002: (despite the awful snubbing of Julianne Moore in Far From Heaven, this would probably be the best lineup out of any)

• Adrian Brody, Daniel Day-Lewis, Renee Zellweger, Jack Nicholson, Nicolas Cage
• Catherine Zeta-Jones, Nicole Kidman *(pretty sure they move her here; not sure if she beats Zeta-Jones though)*, Julianne Moore, Meryl Streep, Chris Cooper

2001:

• Russell Crowe *(without winning the previous year, becomes almost a lock)*, Denzel Washington, Tom Wilkinson, Judi Dench, Nicole Kidman
• Sissy Spacek *(would have a huge career win narrative)*, Jennifer Connelly, Ian McKellen, Jim Broadbent, Helen Mirren

2000:

• Julia Roberts, Russell Crowe, Tom Hanks, Ellen Bursytn, Juliette Binoche *(Weinstein would make this happen)*
• Benicio Del Toro, Albert Finney, Joaquin Phoenix, Kate Hudson, Judi Dench

1999: (it’s so painful to think about that amazing supporting actress lineup being completely decimated; I only see a total of 2 women nominated this year, although both could win, so that’s something) 

• Hilary Swank, Kevin Spacey, Denzel Washington, Russell Crowe, Richard Farnsworth
• Annette Bening *(pretty sure they put her in supporting)*, Michael Caine, Haley Joel Osment, Tom Cruise, Jude Law

1998: (thinking about it more, Weinstein would actually throw Paltrow into supporting so he can win both categories)

• Roberto Benigni, Cate Blanchett, Ian McKellen, Tom Hanks, Nick Nolte
• Gwyneth Paltrow, Meryl Streep, Ed Harris, Kathy Bates, Billy Bob Thornton

1997:

• Jack Nicholson, Helen Hunt, Matt Damon, Kate Winslet, Robert Duvall
• Robin Williams, Burt Reynolds, Gloria Stuart, Kim Basinger, Greg Kinnear

1996:

• Geoffrey Rush (ughh), Ralph Fiennes, Tom Cruise, Brenda Blethyn, Billy Bob Thornton
• Frances McDormand *(seems likely they would switch the placements, putting William H. Macy in Lead)*, Juliette Binoche, Kristin Scott Thomas, Cuba Gooding Jr., Edward Norton

1995: (lots of ways this year could go, and 2 films taking up 4 nominations in the Lead category might be difficult, but it makes sense)

• Nicolas Cage, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, Elisabeth Shue, Meryl Streep
• Kevin Spacey, Ed Harris, Sharon Stone *(definitely seeing a category swap for her)*, Kate Winslet, James Cromwell

1994: (Dianne Wiest vs Martin Landau, hmm, I want to say it’s Wiest, she had the stronger film too, but Landau has career narrative)

• Tom Hanks, John Travolta, Morgan Freeman, Paul Newman, Jodie Foster
• Dianne Wiest, Martin Landau, Samuel L. Jackson, Gary Sinise, Uma Thurman

1993:

• Tom Hanks, Holly Hunter, Anthony Hopkins, Daniel Day-Lewis, Liam Neeson
• Emma Thompson *(for The Remains of the Day; would have a big narrative to win)*, Tommy Lee Jones, Ralph Fiennes, Leonardo DiCaprio, Pete Postlethwaite

1992: (another year where I can see no women in the Lead category; Emma Thompson would be the only one if she makes it, but her performance is quite subdued, the guys have “more serious” roles)

• Al Pacino, Denzel Washington, Robert Downey Jr., Clint Eastwood, Stephen Rea
• Gene Hackman (blehhh), Jack Nicholson, Judy Davis, Jaye Davidson, Susan Sarandon *(no Marisa Tomei or Vanessa Redgrave hurts so bad)*

1991:

• Jodie Foster, Geena Davis, Susan Sarandon, Nick Nolte, Warren Beatty
• Anthony Hopkins (because duh), Annette Bening *(it’s amazing to think she’s had 3 opportunities to sweep an awards season in the Supporting Actress category, but keeps trying for Lead; I think that changes with combined categories)*, Harvey Keitel, Jack Palance, Mercedes Ruehl

1990:

• Jeremy Irons, Kathy Bates, Kevin Costner, Anjelica Huston, Robert De Niro
• Joe Pesci, Whoopi Goldberg, Bruce Davison, Annette Bening, Al Pacino

1989:

• Daniel Day-Lewis, Jessica Tandy, Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman, Jeff Bridges *(without having been nominated before, there’s a big push to get him in here)*
• Michelle Pfeiffer *(not sure if she can beat Robin Williams, but this would be a very strong supporting play)*, Robin Williams, Denzel Washington, Martin Landau, Danny Aiello

1988: (the supporting category this year is quite a mystery; I’m sure Sigourney gets nominated, but after that, who knows)

• Dustin Hoffman, Gene Hackman, Jodie Foster, Sigourney Weaver, Glenn Close
• Kevin Kline, Sigourney Weaver, Martin Landau, River Phoenix, Dean Stockwell

1987:

• Michael Douglas, Cher, Holly Hunter, William Hurt, Glenn Close
• Sean Connery, Albert Brooks, Olympia Dukakis, Morgan Freeman, Meryl Streep *(it’s a supporting role anyway, but if she would stay Lead for some reason, then Anne Ramsey for this last spot)*

1986:

• Marlee Matlin, Paul Newman, Bob Hoskins, William Hurt, Sigourney Weaver
• Dianne Wiest, Michael Caine, Tom Berenger, Dennis Hopper, Willem Dafoe

1985:

• William Hurt, Jack Nicholson, Geraldine Page, Whoopi Goldberg, Meryl Streep
• Anjelica Huston, Oprah Winfrey, Klaus Maria Brandauer, Meg Tilly, Don Ameche

1984:

• F. Murray Abraham, Tom Hulce, Sally Field, Albert Finney, Sam Waterston
• Haing S. Ngor, Peggy Ashcroft, John Malkovich, Ralph Richardson, Pat Morita

1983: (the category placements of the Terms of Endearment women and The Dresser men creates a bunch of variables, and it’s difficult to say who wins between MacLaine and Duvall even if Winger is in the other category)  

• Shirley MacLaine, Robert Duvall, Meryl Streep, Albert Finney, Tom Courtenay
• Debra Winger, Jack Nicholson, Linda Hunt, Cher, Glenn Close

1982:

• Ben Kingsley (ughhh), Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, Paul Newman, Julie Andrews
• Louis Gossett Jr., Jessica Lange, James Mason, Robert Preston, John Lithgow

1981: (assuming they hadn’t given Hepburn an honorary Oscar yet, which they just gave to Henry Fonda the year before, I’ll say she wins. Otherwise there might be an opening for Diane Keaton, who probably wouldn’t have won yet) 

• Katharine Hepburn, Henry Fonda, Diane Keaton, Burt Lancaster, Warren Beatty
• Jane Fonda *(the prospect of a career Oscar for this performance is very scary)*, John Gielgud, Maureen Stapleton, Jack Nicholson, Meryl Streep

1980:

• Robert De Niro, Sissy Spacek, John Hurt, Timothy Hutton, Robert Duvall
• Mary Tyler Moore *(these categories for Hutton and Moore are correct anyway; very possible she would make the swap if facing more competition)*, Peter O’Toole, Mary Steenburgen, Joe Pesci, Judd Hirsch

1979: (I wonder if Jane Fonda or Diane Keaton would go supporting, for now I’ll say no; Shirley MacLaine however seems likely to go there)

• Sally Field, Dustin Hoffman, Peter Sellers, Roy Scheider, Jack Lemmon
• Meryl Streep, Melvyn Douglas, Robert Duvall, Shirley MacLaine, Jane Alexander

1978:

• Jon Voight, Robert De Niro, Jane Fonda, Ingrid Bergman, Jill Clayburgh
• Christopher Walken, Geraldine Page, John Hurt, Maggie Smith, Bruce Dern

1977:

• Richard Dreyfuss, Diane Keaton, Marsha Mason, Woody Allen, Richard Burton
• Anne Bancroft *(great opportunity to snatch that career Oscar)*, Alec Guinness, Jason Robards, Vanessa Redgrave, Peter Firth

1976: (assuming Dunaway demands for Peter Finch to be put in supporting, which she totally would)  

• Faye Dunaway, Robert De Niro, William Holden, Sylvester Stallone, Sissy Spacek
• Peter Finch, Talia Shire, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Piper Laurie

1975:

• Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, Maximilian Schell, Walter Matthau, Isabelle Adjani
• Louise Fletcher, George Burns, Julie Christie *(much stronger supporting play than Lee Grant)*, Lily Tomlin, Jack Warden

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[Monsoon 🌊 Joined: Aug 11th, 2020 Topics: 23 Posts: 2247 View Predictions]

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2020/2021

BEST LEAD PERFORMANCE
Riz Ahmed, Sound of Metal
*Chadwick Boseman, Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Viola Davis, Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Delroy Lindo, Da 5 Bloods
Frances McDormand, Nomadland
Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman

BEST SUPPORTING PERFORMANCE
Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Chadwick Boseman, Da 5 Bloods
Sacha Baron Cohen, The Trial of the Chicago 7
Olivia Colman, The Father
*Daniel Kaluuya, Judas & The Black Messiah
Amanda Seyfried, Mank

👑Cicely Tyson (1924-2021)
👑Mary Wilson (1944-2021)

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[OccultCherry Joined: Sep 13th, 2020 Topics: 1 Posts: 739 View Predictions]

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Monsoon 🌊 wrote:

2020/2021

BEST LEAD PERFORMANCE
*Chadwick Boseman, Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom

not this being the best lead performance of the year, what a joke

FYC:

Picture: Nomadland
Director: Chloe Zhao
Leading Actress: Frances McDormand
Leading Actor: Anthony Hopkins
Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-jung
Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya
Adapted Screenplay: The Father
Original Screenplay: Promising Young Woman

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[TrumpBiden Joined: Dec 22nd, 2020 Topics: 2 Posts: 157 View Predictions]

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In theory it would be fun, in reality it would be such a disaster. I even have to admit, looking back I’d vote 70% for the male performances.

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[Zuranthium Joined: Dec 9th, 2014 Topics: 0 Posts: 159 View Predictions]

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The following opinion might change slightly depending on wins that happen, but now that we have the nominees, I’ll say:

2020:

LEAD: Chadwick Boseman, Anthony Hopkins, Frances McDormand, Riz Ahmed, Carey Mulligan

SUPPORTING: Daniel Kaluuya, Olivia Colman, Sacha Baron Cohen, Yuh-jung Youn, Leslie Odom Jr.

Even if Bakalova sweeps supporting actress the rest of this season, I don’t think she’d make it under a combined system. Also keeping in mind that Colman would not be a winner yet, so there’s more incentive to nominate her.

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[String Cheese Theory Joined: Aug 16th, 2020 Topics: 4 Posts: 618 View Predictions]

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TrumpBiden wrote:

In theory it would be fun, in reality it would be such a disaster. I even have to admit, looking back I’d vote 70% for the male performances.

Historically male executives, producers and directors have favoured male stories and male performances, stereotyped female characters and cast women based on appearance. So your comment isn’t a surprise, it just reinforces the need for more women at the helm, as we’re seeing.

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[Jasmine is French Joined: Sep 22nd, 2011 Topics: 21 Posts: 703 View Predictions]

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Hopefully the Academy will create a Best Actor in a Foreign language film that merged actor and actress

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[MultipleOscarWinner Joined: Mar 3rd, 2017 Topics: 0 Posts: 159 View Predictions]

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I think the awards would be infinitely much more predictable. We’d know the winners by April.

FYC:

Best Actor:
Delroy Lindo - Da 5 Bloods

Best Actress:
Sidney Flanigan - Never Rarely Sometimes Always

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[syrus80 Joined: Nov 11th, 2010 Topics: 13 Posts: 260 View Predictions]

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It would be a terrible idea. I still hate that the Grammys did it.

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