March 2, 2021 at 3:07 pm #1204077664
I will not deny that Chadwick Boseman is excellent in both Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom and Da 5 Bloods. But is he winning these awards, including the Golden Globe Award, because of how good he is in these movies, or because he recently died?
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Both. If he were alive, would Anthony Hopkins be more of a contender? Maybe. It would probably be more of a tight race. But it is an Oscar worthy performance, so I don’t mindMarch 2, 2021 at 3:15 pm #1204077698
In lead, no. He’d probably still win.
In supporting, yes. The nomination would be a bit of an overkill, and due to sentiment. Clark Peters or Jonathan Majors should be contenders instead.
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Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"March 2, 2021 at 3:18 pm #1204077708
Is it that hard to believe that he still could’ve won if he were alive? Maybe actors just love his performance.March 2, 2021 at 3:27 pm #1204077731
He is not just good he is EXCELLENT. Better than the competition.March 2, 2021 at 3:27 pm #1204077737
He would still win in Lead if he was still alive, but a nom in Supporting for that cameo is clearly just because he’s dead.March 2, 2021 at 3:33 pm #1204077758
I think had been alive, he most certainly would’ve faced stiffer competition from not just Hopkins but also Riz Ahmed.
I still think he would’ve more than likely ended up winning.
As for Da Five Bloods? I honestly think that is pure name-checking when Clarke Peters and Jonathan Majors are right there.
I personally would vote for Riz Ahmed…but I say that having not seen Hopkins or Rahim yet.
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I don’t mind him winning but those saying it’s got nothing to do with his death are living in a bubble.March 2, 2021 at 3:38 pm #1204077773
Does This Thread Exist Because It’s A Good Question, or Because You’re An Asshole?
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He gives an outstanding performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. If he wins, it will be a well deserved Oscar.
Boseman’s name had been making rounds for a few years. Being part of Marvel took him to the next level. He had already made a name for himself by playing many Legendary figures. Black Panther made him a new icon. I honestly think he would still have been competitive for a win.March 2, 2021 at 3:54 pm #1204077809
Being Oscar-worthy =/= having the best performance.
Chadwick is not my favorite in Best Actor, but he was fantastic in Ma Rainey and worthy to win in my opinion. I’m not sure he would’ve been the frontrunner if he was alive, but he would’ve won an Oscar at some point of his career, so there’s absolutely nothing wrong with honoring him with this.March 2, 2021 at 4:10 pm #1204077840This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.March 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm #1204077874
Every single year, we see actors winning Best Actor not just based on their performance, but also because of their narrative. As you ponder if Boseman is winning because of his recent death, also ask yourself these questions too: Would recent winners such as Leonardo DiCaprio and Gary Oldman have won if they weren’t seen as being overdue? Would Joaquin Phoenix have won for Joker if the film wasn’t a smash hit and a cultural phenomenon? Would Daniel Day-Lewis have won a third Oscar if he wasn’t considered by many to be the world’s greatest actor? Would Matthew McConaughey have won if it weren’t for the McConaissance? The Academy Award for Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role may be intended to reward actors who do exactly what the award’s title demands, but in practice, there are other factors involved that lead to an actor winning. This shouldn’t be a shock to anyone on this site, as many of us have been following and predicting Oscars for years.
This year, Boseman’s death plays a big part in his narrative. That cannot be ignored. We also cannot ignore that he is up against strong competition in both Riz Ahmed and Anthony Hopkins. Boseman’s death gives him the edge above both of them, although it can’t be ignored that Ma Rainey is a stronger overall contender than both Sound of Metal and The Father. If we were to create an alternate reality in which Boseman was still with us, we would also have to wonder how strong Ma Rainey, Sound of Metal, and The Father would be as contenders. Now, if we are to create a scenario in which both Boseman is alive and that all those three films have the same overall strength as they do today, Boseman would almost certainly be in the winning conversation. He very well could’ve won, partly because, in this alternate reality, his film would attract more eyeballs than any of his competitors’ films. It’s impossible to know what would happen in any alternate reality, but it does seem like the scenario I just described is probable.
Lastly, it’s worth reminding everyone that there are currently 93 winners in the Best Actor category, with only one of those 93 having won posthumously. In other words, posthumous Best Actor winners currently compromise of a literal 1.07% of all the Best Actor winners. Winning an Oscar posthumously is a statistical anomaly. Hence we cannot understate the passion for Boseman’s performance. Knowing the stats, we can reasonably conclude that his death in of itself wouldn’t be enough to win him an Oscar.March 2, 2021 at 4:55 pm #1204077897
If he were alive, it would have been a « welcome to the club » nomination. He would have been a frontrunner though, that’s certain. But he wouldn’t have won.March 2, 2021 at 5:04 pm #1204077911
I was not trying to be “rude”. I was just asking a simple question, a question I always ask whenever there are posthumous nominations from actors. I wondered the same thing when Heath Ledger won (though his performance in The Dark Knight was one of the best I have ever seen).
It just seems kinda suspect is all to me. Again he did awesome in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, but I still wonder what would’ve happened if he did not die.
If I did come across as an “asshole”, then I am sorry.
I am sorry for my past behaviour. I am sorry for being a turd. I would like to try and be better.Not now
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