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    Pollo crudo
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    So what if Toy Story 3 won that year? Or a loved documentary won? Would it create this issue?

    I don’t think so. Animation and Documentaries are actually different from Live-action filmmaking. Whereas there’s not an actual difference or value in being on a language other than English.

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    No. The category is not obsolete. There is a reason that genre categories exist. In some highly competitive or very locked years, these awards are the difference from winning or going home emptyhanded. In the end, an Oscar is an Oscar is an Oscar. Not every film is going to be “Parasite.” Leave the category in place exactly as it is.

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    Getting rid of the International Film category because a number of those films were nominated for Best Picture/won in other categories is like saying AMPAS should get rid of the Animated Feature Film category because Beauty & the Beast was nominated for Best Picture (or because {insert any of a number of songs from Disney animated films here} won an Oscar for Original Song).

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    There is still not enough precedent yet to warrant the category obsolete.

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    Did racism end when Obama got elected?

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    No. The category is not obsolete. There is a reason that genre categories exist. In some highly competitive or very locked years, these awards are the difference from winning or going home emptyhanded. In the end, an Oscar is an Oscar is an Oscar. Not every film is going to be “Parasite.” Leave the category in place exactly as it is.

    So… “foreign” is a genre?

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    Getting rid of the International Film category because a number of those films were nominated for Best Picture/won in other categories is like saying AMPAS should get rid of the Animated Feature Film category because <em class=”d4pbbc-italic”>Beauty & the Beast was nominated for Best Picture (or because {insert any of a number of songs from Disney animated films here} won an Oscar for Original Song).

    Beauty and the Beast was nominated there before the creation of the Animated Film category. And I’m not talking about the Documentary nor Animated categories, I do think those should be left in place, because they’re actually different than Live-action filmmaking. But being “foreign language” isn’t a genre nor a form of filmmaking. That category is fundamentally flawed.

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    Did racism end when Obama got elected?

    This is a fallacy and the reasoning of a child. Racism is inherently negative for a society, a foreign language film is not. Nobody is trying to terminate the films not in English language.

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    Beauty and the Beast was nominated there before the creation of the Animated Film category. And I’m not talking about the Documentary nor Animated categories, I do think those should be left in place, because they’re actually different than Live-action filmmaking. But being “foreign language” isn’t a genre nor a form of filmmaking. That category is fundamentally flawed.

    The category allows for films to be entered that otherwise would not be eligible as they were not shown in Los Angeles County for seven consecutive days during the eligibility period.

    Perhaps a restriction that a movie that is eligible for other Oscars cannot be entered in the International Feature Film category in the same year (IIRC, Like Water for Chocolate was entered as a Foreign Language Film one year, then, after its US release, was eligible for other categories the following year) would fix this (supposed) problem?

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    No. The Oscars can always swing back to bad movies like Green Book or Out of Africa kind of movie in any given year. One foreign language winner for BP doesn’t mean we can ignore foreign cinema.

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    No…..and I know I am going to sound overly but hear me out…..the Oscars could and probably will go back to what they are used to but Parasite winning could mean that foreign films will be taken a lot more seriously from now on and the category can give us more of a hint towards future BP winners……………but it’s the Oscars so they could easily go back to their usual.

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    Maybe I sometimes look too deep into things but when there are non-English films nominated in the Best Picture category, it feels as if they are saying “English language films are better than Non-English language films” due to there always being only one Non-English film nominated.

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    whatever

    Lol! There is a grain of truth to what you’re saying. History making is good for ratings, apparently.

    But I disagree about Parasite being over rated or undeserving. It’s an exceptionally unforgettable work.

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    The only thing they should do with this category is changing its name to Best Film Not in the English Language to eliminate all confusion and all those potential ‘Nigeria/Lionheart’ situations.

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    Beauty and the Beast was nominated there before the creation of the Animated Film category. And I’m not talking about the Documentary nor Animated categories, I do think those should be left in place, because they’re actually different than Live-action filmmaking. But being “foreign language” isn’t a genre nor a form of filmmaking. That category is fundamentally flawed.

    You simply don’t get it. The whole aim of the award is to celebrate films from other countries in their own, pure regard. Their cultural experiences, point of views and forms of storytelling are unique that you won’t find in films here in the US. Also a lot of countries outside the US look forward to competing in this category because it’s the only way they could get any recognition and is nearly impossible to penetrate the US market. Some of the best foreign films I’ve discovered was by checking out what films were nominated. You remove that and you’ll strip away the essence and respectability of the Oscars.

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