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  • Aryan Varma
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    It upset Phantom Thread at the Costume Designers Guild Awards. Will this mean it upsets Phantom Thread at the Oscars? Or does Phantom Thread still emerge victorious?

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    Critics Choice + BAFTA matters more than CDG. Yeah, last year Jackie didn’t prevail at the end. But Phantom Thread is a BP nominee and since it surprised everyone at the Oscar morning, we know that AMPAS loved it and Costume Design is the only category this film has a chance. Besides, we don’t have Colleen Attwood this year.

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    Or maybe they will go insane and “Marie Antoinette” this and award Victoria and Abdul.

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    PerksofBeingGriff
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    If Hugo couldn’t win this against The Artist then I do not see this winning.

    “Someone is staring at you in ‘Personal Growth’.”

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    Or maybe they will go insane and “Marie Antoinette” this and award Victoria and Abdul.

    It wouldn’t be undeserving. I do think PT still takes it.

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    Riley
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    12 Years a Slave over The Great Gatsby was when I learned that the CDG is full of basic bitches who use their vote as if it were for Best Picture—and it is why I was one of the few who predicted The Shape of Water over Phantom Thread for CDG.  I did not predict Hidden Figures over Jackie last year or Wonder Woman over Beauty and the Beast this year, but both further illustrate the point.  I would be concerned for Phantom Thread if it had not been an academy smash and it helps that Beauty and the Beast had similar guild issues.

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    Andrew Carden
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    I suspect, especially given the Academy’s apparent affection for the picture, it’s still Phantom Thread. If it’s The Shape of Water, it’s in for one hell of a night.

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    Riley
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    Indeed, costumes is rarely a “sweep” category and often goes instead to a film with barely any other nominations (if any).

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    Or maybe they will go insane and “Marie Antoinette” this and award Victoria and Abdul.

    It wouldn’t be undeserving.

    Totally agree.

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    Indeed, costumes is rarely a “sweep” category and often goes instead to a film with barely any other nominations (if any).

    I’m not talking sweeps, but since a minimum of the 90s to present the majority of costume design winners (~75%) have gone to films with 3+ nominations (about 67% have 4+ if three is too few) and the award has gone to the BP winner about 20 times since its inception in 1948, so I’d hardly count it a pity category. Even just a couple of years ago, Mad Max and The Grand Budapest Hotel didn’t go home with only costume design. I’m still predicting Phantom Thread and wouldn’t be flabbergasted by a left-field V&A win (not unpleasant), but if we’re talking at least the last 30 years I don’t think Fantastic Beasts or Marie Antoinette are enough to make fewer nominations a better omen for the category hopefuls.

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    If The Shape of Water, which didn’t even warrant a nomination for this category in the first place, somehow wins this, then it’s stronger than I thought.

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    GusCruz
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    I wouldn’t be surprised given what we got last year, and how the Academy never ceases to disappoint me.

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    Now in all seriousness, does Phantom Thread really deserve to win this category? I really REALLY like the movie, but some of those dresses were horrendous.

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    GusCruz
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    Now in all seriousness, does Phantom Thread really deserve to win this category? I really REALLY like the movie, but some of those dresses were horrendous.

    It still shocks me that people don’t get the point of the dresses in PT. Some of those dresses are supposed to be uninspired because they reflect 1) still post-WWII and 50s fashion austerity; and most importantly 2) Woodcock’s personal torment. This has been discussed by Bridges in interviews, if anyone still doesn’t believe it’s intentional. The lead character is an artist who is for most of the movie out of his comfort zone and in a chaotic creative environment. What’s so brilliant about the costume design in this film is that it perfectly reflects it every step of the way. Notice how the dresses that were not designed by Woodcock are very different than his.

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    Thanks @GusCruz

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