Is this how the Oscar acting categories could go genderless?

[FilmRoyalty Joined: Oct 5th, 2011 Topics: 71 Posts: 3066 View Predictions]

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Why go genderless?

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[A G Wooding Joined: Jan 29th, 2016 Topics: 1 Posts: 28 View Predictions]

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Wanda wrote:

Just have some balls and keep it down to 5 nominees, lol. No need to overthink it. Some days I even feel like combining the lead and supporting categories, too.

Holy hell, a full battle royale!!

(…yeoh would still have won…)

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[A G Wooding Joined: Jan 29th, 2016 Topics: 1 Posts: 28 View Predictions]

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laslo wrote:

Anyway, about the acting categories, I think it would be an exciting change to have a Leading category, a Supporting category, an Ensemble category, and a Voice Acting category. But that’s just me.

I’m all for this actually, so long as Voice Acting can also encompass Motion Capture performances.

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laslo wrote:

The work of adapting the material requires great care, requires understanding the difference between the medium of the base work and cinema, and often takes advantage of already written texts, uses the critical reception of the base material as a guide to what works and does not work, many times relies on pre-established notions from the public. Adaptation is a work of translation that must be done with great artistic sensitivity. Original scripts need to establish characters and settings from scratch, so they require original, concise ideas that don’t need to meet expectations or be confined to an already made story. They don’t take advantage of tried and tested material and that makes them have more freedom but also have a much greater risk of failure. These two forms are too distinguishable to be placed under the same umbrella.

I mean, depends. There’s a reason some scripts are put in as adapted by some awards and original by other awards.

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For the record, here’s how your plan would have worked with the Oscars this year…:

Best Lead Performer – Fiction:
Cate Blanchett – TAR
Colin Farrell – The Banshees Of Inisherin
Brendan Fraser – The Whale
Michelle Williams – The Fabelmans
Michelle Yeoh – Everything Everywhere

Best Lead Performer – Non-Fiction:
Naomi Ackie – I Wanna Dance With Somebody
Ana der Armas – Blonde
Austin Butler – Elvis
Jessica Chastain – The Good Nurse
Danielle Deadwyler – Till

Best Supporting Performer – Fiction:
Angela Bassett – Wakanda Forever
Kerry Condon – The Banshees Of Inisherin
Jamie Lee Curtis – Everything Everywhere
Brendan Gleeson – The Banshees of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan – Everything Everywhere

Best Supporting Performer – Non-Fiction:
Patricia Clarkson – She Said
Tom Hanks – Elvis
David Lynch – The Fabelmans
Carey Mulligan – She Said
Eddie Redmayne – The Good Nurse

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[TVFan365 Joined: Jul 12th, 2011 Topics: 1 Posts: 424 View Predictions]

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If it does go genderless, I would prefer there be 10 nominees each in Lead and Supporting (not a fan of the fictional/non-fictional idea). But also, why not just have 2 winners for Lead and 2 winners for Supporting by awarding the two highest vote getters in both categories? They can announce winner 1 and 2, either by alphabetical order, or by random order. Have winner 1 come up and give their acceptance speech and then they announce winner 2 and that person comes up and gives their acceptance speech. I just would rather stay with 4 acting winners than only 2.

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[A G Wooding Joined: Jan 29th, 2016 Topics: 1 Posts: 28 View Predictions]

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WEAK is the WORD.
It would also be weird if some members of a cast go fiction (Lynch) and others non fiction (Dano etc). I don’t think this is going to work.

That is a weird quirk of this method. Probably the only way it would be viable (and that’s a big if) is if the Academy are flexible with what constitutes a fictional/non-fictional performance. For example, Michelle Williams could be either depending on how you look at it. A fictional character but heavily inspired by Spielberg’s mother to the point where some people called it a spot-on impersonation

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And the year before… (Note: Macbeth was a real person, even if they are different to how the Shakespeare text portrays them)

Best Lead Performer – Fictional:
Olivia Colman – The Lost Daughter
Bradley Cooper – Nightmare Alley
Penelope Cruz – Parallel Mothers
Benedict Cumberbatch – The Power Of The Dog
Leonardo DiCaprio – Don’t Look Up

Best Lead Performer – Non-Fiction:
Jessica Chastain – The Eyes Of Tammy Faye
Andrew Garfield – tick, tick… BOOM!
Nicole Kidman – Being The Ricardos
Will Smith – King Richard
Kristen Stewart – Spencer

Best Supporting Performer – Fictional:
Ariana DeBose – West Side Story
Kirsten Dunst – The Power Of The Dog
Ciaran Hinds – Belfast
Troy Kotsur – CODA
Kodi Smit-McPhee – The Power Of The Dog

Best Supporting Performer – Non-Fiction:
Ben Affleck – The Last Duel
Bradley Cooper – Licorice Pizza
Aunjanue Ellis – King Richard
Jared Leto – House Of Gucci
JK Simmons – Being The Ricardos

and the year before….

Best Lead Performer – Fictional:
Riz Ahmed – Sound Of Metal
Chadwick Boseman – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Anthony Hopkins – The Father
Frances McDormand – Nomadland
Carey Mulligan – Promising Young Woman

Best Lead Performer – Non-Fiction:
Kingsley Ben-Adir – One Night In Miami
Viola Davis – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Andra Day – The United States Vs. Billie Holiday
Gary Oldman – Mank
Lakeith Stanfield – Judas And The Black Messiah

Best Supporting Performer – Fictional:
Maria Bakalova – Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Olivia Colman – The Father
Bill Murray – On The Rocks
Paul Raci – Sound Of Metal
Youn Yuh-Jung – Minari

Best Supporting Performer – Non-Fiction:
Glenn Close – Hillbilly Elergy
Sacha Baron Cohen – The Trial Of The Chicago 7
Daniel Kaluuya – Judas And The Black Messiah
Leslie Odom Jr. – One Night In Miami
Amanda Seyfreid – Mank

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TVFan365 wrote:

If it does go genderless, I would prefer there be 10 nominees each in Lead and Supporting (not a fan of the fictional/non-fictional idea). But also, why not just have 2 winners for Lead and 2 winners for Supporting by awarding the two highest vote getters in both categories? They can announce winner 1 and 2, either by alphabetical order, or by random order. Have winner 1 come up and give their acceptance speech and then they announce winner 2 and that person comes up and gives their acceptance speech. I just would rather stay with 4 acting winners than only 2.

Academy Award for Best Lead Performance
Ana de Amas – Blonde
Austin Butler – Elvis
Cate Blanchett – Tar
Colin Farrell – The Banshees of Inisherin
Brendan Fraser – The Whale
Paul Mescal – Aftersun
Bill Nighy – Living
Andrea Riseborough – To Leslie
Michelle Williams – The Fabelmans
Michelle Yeoh – Everything Everywhere All At Once

Academy Award for Best Supporting Performance
Angela Bassett – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Hong Chau – The Whale
Kerry Condon – The Banshees of Inisherin
Jamie Lee Curtis – Everything Everywhere All At Once
Brendnan Gleeson – The Banshees of Inisherin
Brian Tyree Henry – Causeway
Stephanie Hsu – Everything Everywhere All At Once
Judd Hirsch – The Fabelmans
Barry Keoghan – The Banshees of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan – Everything Everywhere All at Once

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TVFan365 wrote:

Academy Award for Lead Performance
Ana de Amas – Blonde
Austin Butler – Elvis
Cate Blanchett – Tar
Colin Farrell – The Banshees of Inisherin
Brendan Fraser – The Whale
Paul Mescal – Aftersun
Bill Nighy – Living
Andrea Riseborough – To Leslie
Michelle Williams – The Fabelmans
Michelle Yeoh – Everything Everywhere All At Once

Academy Award for Best Supporting Performance
Angela Bassett – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Hong Chau – The Whale
Kerry Condon – The Banshees of Inisherin
Jamie Lee Curtis – Everything Everywhere All At Once
Brendnan Gleeson – The Banshees of Inisherin
Brian Tyree Henry – Causeway
Stephanie Hsu – Everything Everywhere All At Once
Judd Hirsch – The Fabelmans
Barry Keoghan – The Banshees of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan – Everything Everywhere All at Once

Not disagreeing with your winners necessarily but Mescal and Nighy were lucky to be nominated in a weak Lead Actor race. I think Danielle Deadwyler and Viola Davis would have taken their places based on precursors.

Not sure how the supporting category would have shaken out with 10 nominees though. Dolly de Leon was in a stronger film than Brian Tyree Henry but he is the bigger name. The 10 we got might actually have been the 10 for a combined category aswell

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Honestly, this is such an unnecessary change. Non-binary and transgender actors are already allowed to compete in their preferred categories, and reducing the amount of acting nominees or changing the categories to reflect fiction or non-fiction roles would also lead to some category fraud and likely less public interest if less actors are nominated. Removing gender altogether will probably lead to women’s roles being ghettoized as well since the majority of AMPAS members are male. We already see issues with racial and genre diversity as it is, and removing gender altogether will likely just make it even more noticeable.

FYC:

Everything Everywhere All At Once in every eligible category

Hold My Hand - Lady Gaga for Best Original Song

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[Barbra Please Joined: Oct 21st, 2018 Topics: 47 Posts: 2318 View Predictions]

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Darling, the Oscars is already so boring, going in this direction will make this show even duller lol… good lord.

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