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    RobertPius
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    Or at least in recent years?

    I went through all their IMDb ratings and only The Father managed to get above 8. (It’s at 8.3 up from 8.1 when I checked them all last week.)

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    Yeah, it is. No one outside of the cinephile bubble loves the movies of this awards season.

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    Depends how much credence you give to the crossover between popularity and IMDb ratings I guess. Plus, it’s no surprise this year has lesser seen/ discussed/ loved titles when nobody’s seeing them in cinemas. That said, 2011, 2013 and 2018 only had 1 film score an 8 or above (The Help, Django, Three Billboards), 2016 saw La La Land get an 8 and Hacksaw Ridge an 8.1, and that’s generally the pattern for most years. Only Green Book scored over 8 in 2019, with BoRhap getting an 8. If we’re measuring it by least seen therefore least popular then you’re right, but like I say there’s obvious reasons mitigating for that.

    So, I think we’re blowing this year’s relatively low ratings out of proportion if we’re calling this the least popular year ever. In fact, the ratings aren’t even low. I think this is a broadly well-loved, uncontroversial list of nominations. Nomadland is crushing the race to little protest, Minari, The Father, Judas and Sound of Metal have no detractors at all really and are well loved audience favourites, Chicago has a lot of fans, as does Promising Young Woman and Mank is your standard well-received but not beloved Hollywood drama. I think it’s a good year and the reception to the nominees attests to that.

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    Yes. Without any doubt. And we all know the reasons.

    We will, however, still see many “I have unpopular opinions” people claiming  “it’s not the weakest one in recent years” by saying how good certain films are. They never understand what the real question is.

    Edit: lol a guy said “but we got higher IMDb rating this year”…sorry but you forgot to consider the number of votes. “Least popular” is not “least good”.

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    Yes.

    No one outside of cinéphiles care about these movies

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    Yes. Without any doubt. And we all know the reasons. We will, however, still see many “I have unpopular opinions” people claiming “it’s not the weakest one in recent years” by saying how good certain films are. They never understand what the real question is lol.

    Just to evidence why I’m not an “I have unpopular opinions” person, whatever that is, the original post in this thread uses IMDb ratings to measure popularity on an all-time scale. I would go back further historically to prove the point that it isn’t the least popular using that metric, but I only have to go back to 2011 to prove it. The average rating of the 9 films that year was 7.43. The average rating of films this year is 7.65. Therefore, by the rules of this post, I’m not going against the grain or talking about my subjective opinions, I’m just stating a fact when I say there have been less popular years, per IMDb scores.

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    Just to evidence why I’m not an “I have unpopular opinions” person, whatever that is, the original post in this thread uses IMDb ratings to measure popularity on an all-time scale. I would go back further historically to prove the point that it isn’t the least popular using that metric, but I only have to go back to 2011 to prove it. The average rating of the 9 films that year was 7.43. The average rating of films this year is 7.65. Therefore, by the rules of this post, I’m not going against the grain or talking about my subjective opinions, I’m just stating a fact when I say there have been less popular years, per IMDb scores.

    Also, using the same logic, 2021 has a higher average rating amongst its BP nominees than 2018, which is surprising but true. 2018’s average is 7.58, so I didn’t even need to go back to 2011.

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    Yes absolutely no question about it and catastrophic ratings will reflect that. Mind you, ratings are naturally in free fall. They went down when Black Panther was nominated. They went down when Joker was nominated. Blockbuster nominees didn’t fix them cause free fall continued. It’s the nature of the show itself. Everyone knows the winner as soon as Golden Globes roll and it’s almost always some cinephile favorite that masses ignore. So no point to tune in to see if BP/Joker will win when they obviously won’t cause every award headline before the Oscars had some indie title as the winner of so and so important award. At least this year all movies are unseen by non-cinephiles so no one is fooled and it doesn’t matter what wins since people ignored all of them.

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    Everytime I saw some online polls about this year Best Picture nominees, majority of people keep commenting ‘i never heard any of them’ ‘don’t care’ blah blah… so yeah.

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    It is…. and it will be a miracle if the ratings reach 10 millions. Oscars should had being cancelled for this year. In any normal year none of these films would be nominated.

    The Oscar needs to get rid of the preferential ballot so it can name a deserving movie as Best Picture again.

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    Yes.. the gp couldn’t care less this year and the ratings are going to reflect that.

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    To be clear, if we’re expanding to talk about ratings for the show itself and how many people have seen the films, then I’m 100% with those here arguing that those figures will be at an all time low, although the ‘cinephile’ argument is silly. My family have watched several of these films with me this year and have loved them all despite having no interest in the Oscars/ film generally. Not that I call myself a cinephile (who actually would?), but I do always watch dozens of films released every year, but I digress. There’s no doubting those figures will be lower, and it’s obvious that cinema closures, a pandemic year, and a lack of big name films have been a key reason for that for many reasons, alongside a general decline in Oscar viewership anyway. I’m just arguing that in terms of film quality, which this thread was originally about, this year’s films have better ratings than several years before them.

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    Just to evidence why I’m not an “I have unpopular opinions” person, whatever that is, the original post in this thread uses IMDb ratings to measure popularity on an all-time scale. I would go back further historically to prove the point that it isn’t the least popular using that metric, but I only have to go back to 2011 to prove it. The average rating of the 9 films that year was 7.43. The average rating of films this year is 7.65. Therefore, by the rules of this post, I’m not going against the grain or talking about my subjective opinions, I’m just stating a fact when I say there have been less popular years, per IMDb scores.

    Higher IMDb rating so what?

    Do you count and consider the number of votes? This topic is not “least good” year but “least popular” in recent years. You misunderstood the question.

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    Higher IMDb rating so what? Do you count and consider the number of votes? This topic is not “least good” year but “least popular” in recent years.

    I was just using the framework of the original post by Robert who started this thread, where he talks about IMDb ratings, so I assumed that’s all he was asking the question about.

    I can’t really factor in the number of votes anyway, considering those films had cinema releases, post-Oscar viewing boosts and several years after their release for people to rate them.

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    Lol, I’m sorry but I rarely take IMDB seriously. But yeah, it’s the least popular. And yet, this is probably the best picture line-up since 2010. All of the films are fantastic and somehow the Oscars got it right. To be honest, this is mostly due to the pandemic and a lot of films getting shafted. I’m keen to think films like Sound of Metal or Judas wouldn’t had made it in if Nightmare Alley and Dune would have been released.

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