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    Eddy Q
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    Lol story is different for Best Actor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volpi_Cup_for_Best_Actor#Award_winners

    But why should it be? It’s probably just coincidence that Volpi Cup winners for Best Actress have been more successful at the Oscars than those for Best Actor.

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    I keep seeing here that Phoenix is unlikable and that is a problem for him winning, but what does it actually mean?

    Someone else can probably give more details than me, but Phoenix is known for his often rude and off putting behavior. The most infamous example was when he claimed that he was quitting acting to become a rapper. During this period he appeared on David Letterman in what’s widely regarded as one of the strangest and most uncomfortable interviews of Letterman’s career. Phoenix later revealed that he was faking his retirement and behavior for a mockumentary called I’m Still Here, which I have not seen, but according to its Wikipedia page, contains scenes of Phoenix doing cocaine, ordering prostitutes, and getting shit on while sleeping. Needless to say, his behavior (which went on for over a year) rubbed many the wrong way. Phoenix is also known to not campaign for awards, at one point calling the Oscars bullshit during the awards season when The Master was in contention (he later retracted this statement). So basically, what I’m getting at is that while his performances are critically acclaimed, many people dislike Phoenix as a person. While the awards should be based on the quality of the contender’s work, personal feelings can get in the way, and it’s been said that Phoenix’s behavior has hurt his chances in the past.

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    Lol story is different for Best Actor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volpi_Cup_for_Best_Actor#Award_winners

    And the male winner was still nominated, even though NOBODY saw the movie.

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    Phoenix’s failure to win the Volpi Cup doesn’t damage his chances during the televised awards season. In fact, Joker winning the Golden Lion strengthens his position regardless.

    For Your Consideration:

    Best International Feature: Instinct (The Netherlands)
    Best Actress: Carice van Houten (Instinct)

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    If we are sure of somehing now is that Phoenix is definately winning that Best Actor Oscar and Joker is a top 5 Best Picture contender.

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    I feel like Joker winning the Golden Lion is WAY bigger than Joaquin Phoenix winning another Volpi Cup.

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    WOW! The Golden freaking LION! lol toldja WB wasnt messing around with this movie!

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    Told you guys,Joker was something different.

    It’s not your usual DCEU/MCU SuperHero movie.It is adapted project about an interesting character.

    Rave Reviews and Huge Box Office,Joker is getting that BP nomination.

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    The Phoenix is rising, bitches! Joaquin’s Oscar chances just rose significantly today!

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    I just realized something. If Phoenix ends up winning, then that may finally silence all the people who claimed that Ledger only won because of his death. For me, that would honestly be the best thing that could come out of a Joaquin win.

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    If Phoenix indeed wins, is he going to be the first person to win for an already Oscar winning role?

    No, he’d be the second. Both Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro won for playing Vito Corleone.

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    If Joker gets nominated for Picture (which I think it will now), Joaquin Phoenix is definetely the frontrunner for Actor. There won’t really be anything standing in his way.

    Stream After Hours and In Your Eyes (Remix)

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    If Joker gets nominated for Picture (which I think it will now), Joaquin Phoenix is definetely the frontrunner for Actor. There won’t really be anything standing in his way.

    Don’t forget about Driver though. He also got raves, and he’s in a film that’s currently being hyped up as a major contender. I believe it’s gonna be a battle between him and Phoenix.

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    Don’t forget about Driver though. He also got raves, and he’s in a film that’s currently being hyped up as a major contender. I believe it’s gonna be a battle between him and Phoenix.

    True, but Driver’s performance hasn’t been nearly as hyped up by the media as Phoenix’s, and Actor winners are usually the sole lead in their film, while Driver is a co-lead. So right now I think Phoenix is the frontrunner, with Driver in a close second.

    Stream After Hours and In Your Eyes (Remix)

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