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    BigJay2012
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    Wasn’t expecting to like this as much as I liked. I thought it was a good movie, invigorating, with something to say and entertaining at the same time. It’s a by the numbers sports biopic that the Academy members are going to love.

    Will is great, but he’s doing the same stuff he did in The Pursuit of Happiness, he’s just playing a version of himself and the role itself it’s not exactly challenging, like past winners. I thought Jon Bernthal, Sanyya Sidney and especially Aunjanue Ellis all delivered more nuanced performances than him. Will Will win ? I don’t know, no one knows, time will tell.

    And I was bothered by the lack of confrontation towards Richard Williams (same problem I can’t stand Ted Lasso anymore). Yes, your plan worked, but give some credit for the girls too. Too much pressure upon little kids is never cool. Although there’s a very good scene involving this that offers some confrontation, with Ellis having her “Viola Davis in Fences moment”.

    I was surprised by Reinaldo Marcus Green’s direction, especially at the tennis scenes. I don’t think he’s getting at the Oscars, but he could get a CC and DGA noms at least. There was also some ridiculous fan service for tennis fans, like Richard saying to a sad and sidelined Serena that she would be the GOAT in the future.

    Disappointed by Kris Bowers score. I don’t think he’s gonna get a nomination.

    Picture, Actor, Supporting Actress (Ellis), Editing (because of the tennis scenes) and Original Song, with Screenplay in play too depending on how strong the movie is.

    PS: I think this movie will win SAG Ensemble. Not Belfast.

    Robert Deniro, Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci, and many many more get to “play themselves” over and over, and win Oscars and are deemed as some of the best actors of all time. Why is Will being held to different standard? Will literally has different speech pattern than Richard Williams which is completely different from his Pursuit of Happiness character.

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    just saw King Richard and liked it more than I thought I would – with some serious reservations though.

    On the plus side: the girls were all fantastic, all of them, but especially Sanyya Sidney who plays Venus (: I now understand the praise for Aunjanue Ellis – especially the kitchen scene (but there are at least 9 other actresses I have seen who also deserve one of those five slots for Best Supporting Actress – it’s going to be difficult on February 8th when so many deserving nominees don’t make it in).

    The tennis scenes were well edited, directed and produced – but the rest of the editing was ordinary.

    On the negative side: the screenplay is incredibly manipulative and has the dominant values of capitalism at its worst and a value system around “success” that is not healthy.

    Will Smith is a competent movie star actor giving a competent movie star performance. He plays a horrible male stage mother and we are told we should somehow applaud his awful behavior and see him as some sort of hero. No thank you! They leave out that other players wanted him banned from the tournaments and his bufoonery and more obnoxious behavior – yes, they showed him as a manipulator and a bully but only to a certain degree.

    The direction was solid but not Oscar-worthy. The screenplay was incredibly manipulative and troublesome – while there were some well written scenes it does not mitigate the manipulations throughout the screenplay.

    I particularly disliked the implication that Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario had cheated Venus out of a win. This was false and extremely manipulative.

    As for Oscar nominations I think it will be nominated for Picture, Actor, Supporting Actress, definitely – and an outside chance for Director, Original Screenplay and Film Editing (but those categories have plenty of others in line for those 5 slots). I don’t know if the song at the end of the movie is an Original Song possibility…

    Grade: B-

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    I also have to be put into the group that was underwhelmed by this film.

    The women were the highlight for me, particularly Ellis and Sidney.

    Smith did good but I can’t say that I view this as some kind of undeniable Oscar portrayal.

    It was just a mildly entertaining mostly paint by numbers sports biopic and I wished we could’ve had more of the girls and less of Richard.

    I’d give it a C+

    “The art of making art is putting it together...”

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    He plays a horrible male stage mother and we are told we should somehow applaud his awful behavior and see him as some sort of hero. No thank you!

    I disagree that the movie asks you to celebrate everything he does. One thing I appreciated is that this wasn’t nearly as hagiographic as I’d feared, often showing him letting his pride get in his own way and his family’s way, and even bringing up his other family.

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    Being completely honest, this movie was like a 6/10 for me. A very cookie-cutter type of movie, but a competently made and enjoyable one none the less. The best parts of the movie were towards the end when it focused on Saniyya Sidney as Venus. She delivered a knock-out performance, and it was nice to have the movie focus on the woman who actually accomplished and achieved all of these amazing things. Will Smith was good, but his character kind of annoyed me (probably because it reminded me of my own dad) and I got sick of the script blowing raspberries up his ass for the entire runtime. I felt like at times it gave him too much credit for the girls’ success. Regardless of my personal feelings, this is destined for a good handful of Oscar noms.

    Predictions: Picture, Actor (Smith), Best Supporting Actress (Ellis), Screenplay, Song (Beyonce), and maybe Supporting Actor (Bernthal- who I thought was another stand out).

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    I disagree that the movie asks you to celebrate everything he does. One thing I appreciated is that this wasn’t nearly as hagiographic as I’d feared, often showing him letting his pride get in his own way and his family’s way, and even bringing up his other family.

    Yes, you are correct. But the real Richard Williams annoyed the other players and their teams so much they asked for him to be banned from practice sessions and tournaments. He was much worse than they made him out to be and the film’s screenplay is dishonest about him.

    I played tennis (high school and college level) and the thing is that five year olds do not know if they really truly want to be tennis players (professionally) or not so it becomes stage mothers and fathers pushing them. Andre Agassi writes about his experiences with his awful stage father eloquently in his autobiography. This is a form of abuse that gets justified by the money that can be made if one is successful.

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    Saw this at LFF almost a month ago and I honestly enjoyed it while understanding every criticism about it. As a black girl growing up playing a white dominated sport (soccer) just the implications of it made me emotional and then hearing the lyrics to Be Alive during the credits phew

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    I wanted to like this so much more than I did being a huge Serena Williams super fan.

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    I liked King Richard. The Oscars will definitely love this movie. It’s an inspiring story with great performances. Will Smith could be competitive for a win given the final line up. I’m holding off on calling anyone a frontrunner until all films are seen. But right now I’m confident this is going to do well. Aunjanue Ellis and Jon Bernthal might be strong contenders too. SAG could eat this up.

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    Ellis was very good, but for my money Sidney was the standout among the female castmembers.

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    My goodness I hope Ellis gets nominated for Best Supporting Actress! I just keep thinking about her scene the most after watching it. I also enjoyed Sidney and Smith but Ellis just captivated me the most. The screenplay and direction was decent so I think the movie really played off the great performances.

    I’d give it a B- to B! (Or 8/10)

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    My goodness I hope Ellis gets nominated for Best Supporting Actress! I just keep thinking about her scene the most after watching it. I also enjoyed Sidney and Smith but Ellis just captivated me the most. The screenplay and direction was decent so I think the movie really played off the great performances.

    I’d give it a B- to B! (Or 8/10)

    She was MVP for me. Surprised to see others expecting “more,” she was perfect and provided some of the most satisfying moments of catharsis after some of her husband’s antics.

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    I didn’t enjoy the movie, which is annoying as I’m a tennis fan and there aren’t any good tennis movies out there despite the material on offer. I think Sidney was the MVP, and dare I say Smith was miscast? I’d have preferred Idris Elba in the role, who would have sounded much more like Richard. I know physical resemblance isn’t important as such these days, but he’d look more the part too…the script was so cringe at times, I understand they want a crowd pleaser but definitely not for me. I hope if they make a movie about the sisters in the future it’s something gritty and realistic. This felt too sanitised and I am baffled by the acclaim it’s getting… anyway, I’m sure it will get many underserved Oscar nominations.

    FYC:

    Swinton, Weerasethakul Memoria, (Best Actress, Director)
    Efira, Rampling, Wilson Benedetta (Best Actress, Supporting Actress/Actor)
    Rapace Lamb (Best Actress)
    Stewart, Hawkins, Spall Spencer (Best Actress, Supporting Actress/Actor)

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    “King Richard” was for me a good-not-great kind of movie that’s carried on the shoulders of Will Smith’s charisma and not much else. The issue that I had with it is that since we know how it’s going to end for Venus and Serena, the main focus is how they got there and the role their father had in achieving what they achieved coming from an unprivileged background. In doing so the movie does not take a stance and does not really have a point of view other than the fact that Richard Williams was a genius coach with a great plan but he was a bit controlling. In other words, it’s a bland movie that’s not brave enough to tell anything else than a success story we already knew.

    If it were for me “King Richard” would receive a sole Best Actor nomination for Will Smith. He’s reliably good, but he doesn’t have the Oscar in in his bag yet. Ellis only has one good scene (when she confronts her husband in the kitchen) and that’s not enough for me for an Oscar nomination. The screenplay and direction are unremarkable. I am not changing my predictions yet, since the audience seem to love this movie more than me, but “King Richard” is not making my personal top 10.

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    I liked it! It doesn’t feel like a BP winner at all, but I’m fine with it being nominated. Ellis was the MVP, but Smith was good too. Don’t really get the Bernthal shouts, I doubt he gets a nom here, he really didn’t have much to do.

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