Napoleon – Ridley Scott, Joaquin Phoenix, Vanessa Kirby

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Apple Studios has the 2 biggest films of 2022: Kitbag and Killers of the Flower Moon

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[LifeIsAmazing Joined: Jun 10th, 2019 Topics: 0 Posts: 28 View Predictions]

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Does anyone know when they are going to start filming?

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[Chitanda170 Joined: Apr 1st, 2020 Topics: 2 Posts: 1641 View Predictions]

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LifeIsAmazing wrote:

Does anyone know when they are going to start filming?

Next year in January

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[LA26 Joined: Apr 3rd, 2021 Topics: 29 Posts: 2798 View Predictions]

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Is the January date confirmed? I know Deadline reported it would be shot in the UK early next year, but they didn’t say what month.

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[LA26 Joined: Apr 3rd, 2021 Topics: 29 Posts: 2798 View Predictions]

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I mentioned this in another thread, but Comer is so wrong for the role and I say this as a fan. Does anyone else agree? Marion Cotillard would have been better, and she’s already worked with Scott before. Comer must have really impressed him with her TLD performance now that they’re going to be doing another film together. Something like Free Guy isn’t going to boost her career, so I understand why she signed up for TLD and now Kitbag. The role still should have gone to an older actress IMO.

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[Melvinezq Joined: Aug 7th, 2020 Topics: 1 Posts: 1253 View Predictions]

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LA26 wrote:

The role still should have gone to an older actress IMO.

Yeah, but if she nails the voice work or mannerisms of an older woman, she’s going to be more than competitive for the acting nomination.

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[Synthadora Joined: Apr 5th, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 117 View Predictions]

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LA26 wrote:

but Comer is so wrong for the role and I say this as a fan. Does anyone else agree? Marion Cotillard would have been better, and she’s already worked with Scott before.

I mean yes but this is from a man who said these quotes about exodus.

“I don’t make films for other people, I make films for me. And so far, it’s pretty good because I’m still here after 35 years. So there’s a good expression, ‘Fuck you very much.”

“I can’t mount a film of this budget, where I have to rely on tax rebates in Spain, and say that my lead actor is Mohammad so-and-so from such-and-such.”

I don’t think half of the cast would sign up for that film if it came out today and that was only 6 years ago.

Honestly the main goal is the movie to be entertaining in his eyes. Historical inaccuracies would already put people off so not the best of start, seems like this and killers of the flower moon are Apple’s 2023 oscar big hitters so far, so I’d expect a notable names for this movie.

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[Stank83 Joined: Mar 8th, 2020 Topics: 105 Posts: 2124 View Predictions]

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As i said in another thread i think Kitbag will come out in 2023, not 2022, despite Scott being fast, because they already have Flower Moon as their main push for that year.

That’s because there’s no way Apple will want to make compete these two big budget epics with each other in the same year and awards season, these two films would hurt each other’s awards season chances.
They will prioritize KOTFM for next year due to the filmmakers, cast, and importance of the subject matter and because it’s already starting to shoot this month. So it’s more logical for them to delay the Napoleon movie to 2023.

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[RIDLEY SCOTT Joined: Dec 12th, 2020 Topics: 110 Posts: 3240 View Predictions]

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Synthadora wrote:

I mean yes but this is from a man who said these quotes about exodus. “I don’t make films for other people, I make films for me. And so far, it’s pretty good because I’m still here after 35 years. So there’s a good expression, ‘Fuck you very much.” “I can’t mount a film of this budget, where I have to rely on tax rebates in Spain, and say that my lead actor is Mohammad so-and-so from such-and-such.” I don’t think half of the cast would sign up for that film if it came out today and that was only 6 years ago. Honestly the main goal is the movie to be entertaining in his eyes. Historical inaccuracies would already put people off so not the best of start, seems like this and killers of the flower moon are Apple’s 2023 oscar big hitters so far, so I’d expect a notable names for this movie.

About the Exodus budget he was right. The initial budget of Exodus was 200 million dollars and he only 200 million dollars because he got Bale after TDK Trilogy. Ridley Scott is 100% a businessman so when he talks about budgets or money he is right. And he is kind of right about his first quote: Most Directors only care about their personal preferences and nothing more

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[RIDLEY SCOTT Joined: Dec 12th, 2020 Topics: 110 Posts: 3240 View Predictions]

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Stank83 wrote:

As i said in another thread i think Kitbag will come out in 2023, not 2022, despite Scott being fast. That’s because there’s no way Apple will want to make compete these two big budget epics with each other in the same year and awards season, these two films would hurt each other’s awards season chances. They will prioritize KOTFM for next year due to the filmmakers, cast, and importance of the subject matter and it’s because already starting to shoot this month. So it’s more logical for them to delay the Napoleon movie to 2023.

You could be right. We will see. Apple has way more money than Disney and Netflix and the rest. If Apple wants 2 huge campaigns in the same year, they have the money for it

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[RIDLEY SCOTT Joined: Dec 12th, 2020 Topics: 110 Posts: 3240 View Predictions]

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I hear they will use CGI for young Joaquin Phoenix. Like The Irishman. Joaquin Phoenix is way younger than Robert De Niro so I hope it looks way better. I hated the CGI in The Irishman. They want Joaquin Phoenix Gladiator young looks for some scenes

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[braydenfitzsimmons Joined: May 3rd, 2015 Topics: 98 Posts: 8876 View Predictions]

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LA26 wrote:

Comer is so wrong for the role and I say this as a fan. Does anyone else agree?

Not’s discussed enough how misogynistic how the tendencies to cast younger women (20s) in older roles, that subconsciously puts that idea “oh they’ve already played old for 10 years, why would we want her as a 40 year old now”.

This year alone saw Carey Mulligan (34) portray a 55 year old a decade after she broke out playing a 17 year old (An Education).

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[Chitanda170 Joined: Apr 1st, 2020 Topics: 2 Posts: 1641 View Predictions]

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RIDLEY SCOTT wrote:

I hear they will use CGI for young Joaquin Phoenix. Like The Irishman. Joaquin Phoenix is way younger than Robert De Niro so I hope it looks way better. I hated the CGI in The Irishman. They want Joaquin Phoenix Gladiator young looks for some scenes

It could work, it looked great in Robert Downey jr

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[LA26 Joined: Apr 3rd, 2021 Topics: 29 Posts: 2798 View Predictions]

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braydenfitzsimmons wrote:

Not’s discussed enough how misogynistic how the tendencies to cast younger women (20s) in older roles, that subconsciously puts that idea “oh they’ve already played old for 10 years, why would we want her as a 40 year old now”. This year alone saw Carey Mulligan (34) portray a 55 year old a decade after she broke out playing a 17 year old (An Education).

Agreed, and also the age gap with Gary Oldman and his on-screen wife in Mank.

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[fefface Joined: Jan 14th, 2020 Topics: 3 Posts: 1555 View Predictions]

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LA26 wrote:

Agreed, and also the age gap with Gary Oldman and his on-screen wife in Mank.

Yeah that age gap was completely pointless.

There are times when its accurate – for example in The Last Duel Jodie and Matt Damon have an age gap accurate to the real people they’re playing – but Mank is just egregious. The real Mankiewicz got married at 22 and they’re casting someone 30 years younger than Oldman as his wife?

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