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    Sab227
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    #182213

    Curious to hear what you guys have to say about Waltz, and if you have any suggestions please leave them.

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    #182215

    Other possible contenders:

    Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland, and Mary Tyler Moore – Ordinary People
    –Suggestions for how to organize this
    —->Hutton Lead, Sutherland and Moore Supporting
    —->Hutton and Moore Leads, Sutherland Supporting
    —->Hutton, Moore, AND Sutherland all Lead
    —->Moore and Sutherland Lead, Hutton Supporting (not my view, but how they were campaigned)

    Melanie Laurent, Inglourious Basterds (Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz could be included using the same system as above)
    Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
    Michael Sheen, The Queen
    Matthew McConaughey, Mud
    Haing S. Ngor, The Killing Fields
    Jennifer Connelly, A Beautiful Mind
    Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland
    Marcia Gay Harden, Pollock
    Julie Harris, East of Eden
    Patricia Neal, Hud
    Kevin Spacey, The Usual Suspects
    Talia Shire, Rocky
    William H. Macy, Fargo
    Luise Rainer, The Great Ziegfeld
    Walter Matthau, The Fortune Cookie
    Catherine Zeta-Jones, Chicago
    George Burns, The Sunshine Boys

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    #182216

    Lead role. No question. Sure the movie is called “Django Unchained”, but the film’s focal point is the duo of Django and Schultz. 

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    Completely and totally Lead. I don’t know if Waltz would have made it in Lead or not, as it was already super competitive (John Hawkes left out for The Sessions despite many precursors). It was the closest Jamie Foxx has come since winning for Ray to getting another nomination, and even he was left out. 

    I would have given both Leonardo DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson nominations in Supporting, taking out Waltz (putting him in Lead) and Alan Arkin for Argo. That would have made for a really great category, and honestly, I preferred Jackson’s performance over DiCaprio’s. I would have ranked it…

    1. Samuel L. Jackson, Django Unchained
    2. Leonardo DiCaprio, Django Unchained
    3. Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook
    4. Tommy Lee Jomes. Lincoln
    5. Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master

    It’s a shame DiCaprio was left out, especially for Arkin, who is always good yet didn’t do anything in Argo to warrant a nomination.  

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    Well, the only person imo who warranted a nomination is Waltz. I wouldnt personally nominate anyone else other than those on the ballot. I wouldnt trade out any of its’ nominations for any other perf. I also feel that Arkin, along with Goodman, were the highlights of Argo. He belongs amongst the nominees.

    I think a strong argument can be made for Waltz being Supporting. That’s the way I lean anyways. Co-Leads? Still not sure.

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    Such a lead. He has just as much screentime as Foxx (minus the last like half hour maybe)  but if he was lead he wouldn’t have been nominated (maybe over Washington but Hawkes was a strong competitor too). 

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    Completely and totally Lead. I don’t know if Waltz would have made it in Lead or not, as it was already super competitive (John Hawkes left out for The Sessions despite many precursors). It was the closest Jamie Foxx has come since winning for Ray to getting another nomination, and even he was left out. 

    I would have given both Leonardo DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson nominations in Supporting, taking out Waltz (putting him in Lead) and Alan Arkin for Argo. That would have made for a really great category, and honestly, I preferred Jackson’s performance over DiCaprio’s. I would have ranked it…

    1. Samuel L. Jackson, Django Unchained
    2. Leonardo DiCaprio, Django Unchained
    3. Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook
    4. Tommy Lee Jomes. Lincoln
    5. Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master

    It’s a shame DiCaprio was left out, especially for Arkin, who is always good yet didn’t do anything in Argo to warrant a nomination.  

    Wouldn’t you rank Hoffman as a Lead performance as well? To me, The Master is even more focused on its central duo than Django Unchained, at least in the framing of its story.

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    #182221

    Supporting.

    We only ever see Schultz from Django’s perspective, never on his own (if I’m wrong about this please correct me, my memory is foggy).

    He is absent for the entire third act of the film. 

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    [quote=”GoneGuy”]Completely and totally Lead. I don’t know if Waltz would have made it in Lead or not, as it was already super competitive (John Hawkes left out for The Sessions despite many precursors). It was the closest Jamie Foxx has come since winning for Ray to getting another nomination, and even he was left out. 

    I would have given both Leonardo DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson nominations in Supporting, taking out Waltz (putting him in Lead) and Alan Arkin for Argo. That would have made for a really great category, and honestly, I preferred Jackson’s performance over DiCaprio’s. I would have ranked it…

    1. Samuel L. Jackson, Django Unchained
    2. Leonardo DiCaprio, Django Unchained
    3. Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook
    4. Tommy Lee Jomes. Lincoln
    5. Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master

    It’s a shame DiCaprio was left out, especially for Arkin, who is always good yet didn’t do anything in Argo to warrant a nomination.  

    Wouldn’t you rank Hoffman as a Lead performance as well? To me, The Master is even more focused on its central duo than Django Unchained, at least in the framing of its story.[/quote]

    Absolutely. Foxx and Walts are the leads in Django Unchained, while Phoenix and Hoffman are the leads in The Master. Ironically, Waltz and Hoffman are in extremely similar boats. They’re co-leads, oppose to equal leads. Jamie Foxx feels just a weeeeeee little bit more leading. Joaquin Phoenix feels more leading by a hair. And I guess that was enough to put Waltz and Hoffman in Supporting, where it obviously paid off. It’s not a Brokeback Mountain situation where you have two 100 percent completely equal leads, with one going Lead and the other being ridiculously placed in Supporting. Or a head-scratching one like The Assissination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, where the supporting actor (Brad Pitt) is campaigned in Lead while the leading actor (Casey Affleck) is campaigned in Supporting.  

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    #182224

    He’s the best part of Django. He was the best out of his fellow nominees. He was completely different from his turn in Inglourious Basterds. He deserved his Supporting Oscar win.

    Lol.

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    He’s the best part of Django. He was the best out of his fellow nominees. He was completely different from his turn in Inglourious Basterds. He deserved his Supporting Oscar win.

    I actually 100% agree with this.  

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    #182226

    Waltz was more lead than Foxx until he dies.

    But he does die, so it is tricky.

    I voted lead, but would love to know the screen times.

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    #182227

    Screen time is irrelevant in this matter. His character serves Django.

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    Supporting

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