Lead or Supporting No. 24: Phillip Seymour Hoffman in The Master

[Sab227 Joined: Dec 29th, 2012 Topics: 106 Posts: 765 View Predictions]

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Its time for another round of lead vs supporting. I remember hating The Master so much when it first came out but after a few years I gave it another watch and Realized what a fucking masterpiece this film is. I dont think I fully appreciated it when I watched it when I came out because I was only 16 when it came out but after growing up and maturing my taste in film I could see how beautiful this film truly was. The best part was Phillip Seymour Hoffman who was so unreal and mesmerizing as this charlatan selling Joaquin Phoenix lies and he kept my attention the most. He had such a huge presence in the film and I fully consider him a lead along with Joaquin and honestly after being able to see this movie for the brilliance that it is Hoffman should have won Lead Actor even over Daniel Day Lewis. So what do you all think?

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[fyras19 Joined: Nov 25th, 2019 Topics: 0 Posts: 134 View Predictions]

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He had 1:05:11 of screen time, 47.45% of the runtime of The master. That’s more than Hugh Jackman in Les misérables (58:18, 36.95%) who was nominated in lead. I always thought of him as supporting but you could totally make the case he’s a lead. And I would’ve voted for Joaquin Phoenix to win anyway, but PSH should definitely have won in supporting imo.

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[kingfan011 Joined: Mar 11th, 2017 Topics: 2 Posts: 130 View Predictions]

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Lead

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[BetteDavis Joined: Feb 4th, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 282 View Predictions]

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Y’all wtf. I literally just watched the movie and he’s definitely supporting.  Like clearly supporting.

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[ArtIsntEasy Joined: Dec 17th, 2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 1040 View Predictions]

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I would say he fits into Lead more than Supporting…and he was far and away the best person in that category. He should’ve won a second Oscar for this, especially since DiCaprio was shockingly snubbed.

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[kingfan011 Joined: Mar 11th, 2017 Topics: 2 Posts: 130 View Predictions]

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ArtIsntEasy wrote:

I would say he fits into Lead more than Supporting…and he was far and away the best person in that category. He should’ve won a second Oscar for this, especially since DiCaprio was shockingly snubbed.

 

Agreed this should have been his 2nd Oscar win

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[BetteDavis Joined: Feb 4th, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 282 View Predictions]

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The Academy probably thought they wouldn’t award him so soon after his first win. I’m sure they thought there’d be plenty of other chances to award him.  Instead they gave Waltz a second for some reason.

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