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  • Rubeus
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    Both movies are considered the runner-ups to EEAAO for best picture, both movies even beat it at the Golden Globes in the main non-acting categories, but -currently- none of them is expected to win any single award at the next Oscars. An almost tragic 0/9 for Banshees plus a 0/7 for Fabelmans.

    What do you think are the chances of this being effectively the case in the end? Movies with a lot of nominations that go home empty-handed happens quite often (Gans of New York, True Grit, American Hustle, The Irishman among others), but I don’t recall any other occasion where not just one, but two of the main runners of the season end up suffering this fate.

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    madsxbb
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    none

    banshees will win screenplay and fablemans will win director or one of its tech noms

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    Jeffrey Kare
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    None. Banshees will win screenplay and Fabelmans will win director or one of its tech noms.

    So you’re expecting Everything Everywhere All at Once to be the first Best Picture winner since Chicago to not have additional prizes for directing nor screenplay?

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    So you’re expecting Everything Everywhere All at Once to be the first Best Picture winner since Chicago to not have additional prizes for directing nor screenplay?

    yes. do you think every stat will hold true forever? coda was meant to teach people something

    chicago was only 20 years ago not 70, it is not like something so impossible to happen

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    babypook
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    I voiced apprehension of Banshees being shut out.
    My fear is that the need to give Spielberg another Oscar may be very strong.
    The banshee sp and perfs would be worthy winners. Earlier I was convinced about Colin winning.
    But I wouldn’t bet on it.
    Ke
    Bassett
    EEAAO
    Daniels

    So yes I think they could be shut out, but with Banshees being the victim. Irony being it’s a much more accomplished film than fabelmans.
    Jmho

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    Rubeus
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    yes. do you think every stat will hold true forever? coda was meant to teach people something

    chicago was only 20 years ago not 70, it is not like something so impossible to happen

    Not to mention just 2 years before Chicago there was another similar case with Gladiator, which also didn’t win either directing or writing.

    However, shall EEAAO follow suit, they would need to give it another below-the-line award to support the best picture status, but the only reasonable one is editing and most likely Top Gun will get it.

    I think either directing goes to Fabelmans or writing goes to Banshees, but not both. One of the two will unfortunately be shut out.

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    gorman
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    I’m fearing this will be the case with Banshees. It’s sort of funny because it feels like on a good day it could win four – Picture, Actor, Supp. Actress and Original Screenplay. But with EEAAO looking extremely strong, I could see that taking Picture and Screenplay. Bassett looks to be, somewhat bafflingly but whatever, the Supp. Actress frontrunner over Condon. Actor is a three-horse race that can’t be called yet. I still just about think it will win one because it’s clearly loved by a lot of people – Actor or Original I would guess.

    The Fabelmans I really only think has a shot in Director and Score, and I have it 3rd and 2nd there respectively. It’s had the feel of a shut-out for a little while, I’d be more surprised if it did get a win to be honest.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I think Banshees will win Original Screenplay and I think it could win BP over Banshees if enough academy members find EEAAO to weird and too sci-fi – I also think Colin Farrell could win Best Actor and even Kerry Condon for Supporting Actress if voters aren’t ready to give a Marvel picture an acting award. It will win at least Original Screenplay. Banshees is second in the odds in five categories, third in two categories, and fourth in one category here on GD.

    I do think The Fabelmans and probably Elvis will be shutout.

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    madsxbb
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    Not to mention just 2 years before Chicago there was another similar case with Gladiator, which also didn’t win either directing or writing. However, shall EEAAO follow suit, they would need to give it another below-the-line award to support the best picture status, but the only reasonable one is editing and most likely Top Gun will get it. I think either directing goes to Fabelmans or writing goes to Banshees, but not both. One of the two will unfortunately be shut out.

    about top gun, that is where you and i disagree. i have eeao winning editing over top gun. picture + actress + supporting actor + editing is what i guess eeao is going to get

    going home empty handed for me is tar

     

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    gorman
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    It feels like quite a lot of Picture nominees could go home with nothing to be fair. Banshees, Fabelmans, TAR, Elvis, Women Talking and Triangle of Sadness all feel somewhat vulnerable. It probably won’t be the case, and I’m predicting Banshees (Actor just about and OS), TAR (Actress) and WT (Adapted) to win at least something still, but it’s feasible only EEAAO, Avatar, TG:M and All Quiet walk away with anything, with EEAAO the only Picture nominee winning above the line.

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    Brayfers
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    The Banshees:

    • Losing picture to EEAAO or TG:M
    • Losing director to EEAAO or TF
    • Losing actor to Elvis
    • Losing S. Actor to EEAAO
    • Losing S. Actress to BP:WF
    • Losing editing to EEAAO or TG:M

    its best chances are in Screenplay and a Score upset

    Fabelmans:

    • Losing picture to EEAAO or TG:M
    • losing actress to EEAAO or TAR
    • Losing S. Actor to EEAAO
    • Losing screenplay to EEAAO or Banshees
    • Losing production design to Babylon or Elvis

    its best chances are a score upset or director (but I think EEAAO takes that)

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    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
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    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

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    Brayfers
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    It feels like quite a lot of Picture nominees could go home with nothing to be fair. Banshees, Fabelmans, TAR, Elvis, Women Talking and Triangle of Sadness all feel somewhat vulnerable. It probably won’t be the case, and I’m predicting Banshees (Actor just about and OS), TAR (Actress) and WT (Adapted) to win at least something still, but it’s feasible only EEAAO, Avatar, TG:M and All Quiet walk away with anything, with EEAAO the only Picture nominee winning above the line.

    Elvis won’t go home with nothing, It’s Top 2 in Actor, Cinematography, Production Design, Costume Design, and Makeup & Hairstyling, Im sure it will win at least one of these

    Letterboxd: Brayfers

    !EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
    - SEVEN OSCARS
    - BEST PICTURE
    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
    - Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
    - Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
    - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

    FYC (TV):
    - Abbott Elementary
    - House of the Dragon
    - The White Lotus
    - The Last of Us

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    ejaru1810
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    I think is more likely for The Fabelsman to be shut out than Banshees.

    "EGOT" and "Triple Crown of Acting" winner: VIOLA DAVIS!!!!

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    babypook
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    about top gun, that is where you and i disagree. i have eeao winning editing over top gun. picture + actress + supporting actor + editing is what i guess eeao is going to get

    going home empty handed for me is tar

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Todd Field wins.
    AQOTWF could be a strong tech challenger as well.
    But yes Cate and Co. Could miss.

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    gorman
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    Elvis won’t go home with nothing, It’s Top 2 in Actor, Cinematography, Production Design, Costume Design, and Makeup & Hairstyling, Im sure it will win at least one of these

    It’s first in none though, and it faces stiff competition in all of those categories. There’s definitely a chance it’s shut out.

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