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    I just recently started getting into Marlon Brando’s films and he’s a brilliant actor and I know a lot of people on here like him but I just found out about this whole situation involving the rape scene with butter with Brando and Schneider in “Last Tango in Paris”  and Schneider claims she felt raped even though they were just filming by Brando and the Director because they didn’t tell her they were using butter i’m really disappointed have a lot of you stopped liking him since this came out?

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    This has been old news like since 4 or so years ago. I think Brando was trying some sort of method acting stunt, and got really skeezy with it. Sad that Schneider was so horribly affected by it in all those years.

    Doing something to enhance the realism of the onscreen sex without consulting the actress you’re going to have sex with is a pretty scummy thing to do, and even worse in this situation since it’s a rape in particular. That’s kinda what made me rethink my opinions on Brando a bit, after I found out.

    Now I still hold his work in the early 50s in high regard, and his 70s work in similar fashion, but we simply can’t handwave away his shitty actions on this film set. Maybe we should all think about that when we get our “On the Waterfront” tape/CD/etc out. It’s also abit ironic he didn’t get into these sort of method acting shenanigans on the set of “A Streetcar Named Desire” (which is his best performance imo) because the character he played there was even more of a hyper-masculine jerk who raped people.

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    this kind of behavior isn’t what Method acting is about. Being “method” has kind of been twisted over the years to explain any kind of strange behavior on a set.

    Brando wasn’t doing method acting at this stage of his life. He had drifted into erratic behavior as early as the sixties.

    There was a documentary about him released about three years ago. It really showed his disintegration mentally. It all started around the time of Mutiny on the Bounty.

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    Brando wasn’t doing method acting at this stage of his life.

    I sit corrected on the other things you said, but it’s wrong to say he stopped the method acting at that stage of his career. Based on “Apocalypse Now”, “The Godfather” and so on, he clearly still did want to try and achieve a particular sort of realism to his work (based on Strasberg and Adler’s proposed visions of it).

    That lead to him doing some strange things like leaving cue cards all over the set for him to make line readings more spontaneous. He even stuffed cotton balls in his mouth to get his much-imitated “Godfather” cadence.

    I do agree that the “definition” of method acting has changed a lot for popularism’s sake, and part of this can be chalked up to publicists for awards ready actors bragging about the level of dedication, or immersion the actor showed, not the actual method acting, which is a mostly internal process.

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    It’s made worse by the fact that Bertolucci and Brando were both nominated for the film at the Oscars. It’s not even that good tho. Least of all Brando’s acting and Bertolucci’s directing.

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    Brando wasn’t doing method acting at this stage of his life.

    I sit corrected on the other things you said, but it’s wrong to say he stopped the method acting at that stage of his career. Based on “Apocalypse Now”, “The Godfather” and so on, he clearly still did want to try and achieve a particular sort of realism to his work (based on Strasberg and Adler’s proposed visions of it).

    That lead to him doing some strange things like leaving cue cards all over the set for him to make line readings more spontaneous. He even stuffed cotton balls in his mouth to get his much-imitated “Godfather” cadence.

    I do agree that the “definition” of method acting has changed a lot for popularism’s sake, and part of this can be chalked up to publicists for awards ready actors bragging about the level of dedication, or immersion the actor showed, not the actual method acting, which is a mostly internal process.

    I stand corrected too. That part I wrote about him not doing method acting at that stage of his career came out wrong. I think I meant that he was taken over more by just erratic behavior than any kind of acting technique.

    Was the leaving cue cards around an attempt to be realistic? I’ve heard some people say he just wasn’t prepared. Matthew Broderick used to tell stories of how on The Freshman he would have his lines fed to him thru a headset and then would just chat with his secretary as they set up shots about groceries and errands and stuff he wanted done.

    What struck me in that documentary from a few years ago was how hurt he seemed in interviews when he started getting bad press about how he treated people on the set of Mutiny on the Bounty. That led to almost a whole decade of bad parts and low profile films until The Godfather.

    Did anyone ever see his Emmy winning performance in the Roots sequel? How was that?

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    It’s made worse by the fact that Bertolucci and Brando were both nominated for the film at the Oscars. It’s not even that good tho. Least of all Brando’s acting and Bertolucci’s directing.

    This might be slightly off topic, but replying to what you said, I would have nominated Soylent Green for Director and Actor for Heston over Last Tango In Paris any day. That dystopian sci-fi film is way more of an influential classic that has held up remarkably well over time.

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    It’s made worse by the fact that Bertolucci and Brando were both nominated for the film at the Oscars. It’s not even that good tho. Least of all Brando’s acting and Bertolucci’s directing.

    This might be slightly off topic, but replying to what you said, I would have nominated Soylent Green for Director and Actor for Heston over Last Tango In Paris any day. That dystopian sci-fi film is way more of an influential classic that has held up remarkably well over time.

    I probably would have nominated Scorsese and either DeNiro or Keitel for Mean Streets.

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    It’s made worse by the fact that Bertolucci and Brando were both nominated for the film at the Oscars. It’s not even that good tho. Least of all Brando’s acting and Bertolucci’s directing.

    This might be slightly off topic, but replying to what you said, I would have nominated Soylent Green for Director and Actor for Heston over Last Tango In Paris any day. That dystopian sci-fi film is way more of an influential classic that has held up remarkably well over time.

    I probably would have nominated Scorsese and either DeNiro or Keitel for Mean Streets.

    I also saw Mean Streets and liked it, but forgot about it until you mentioned it. Soylent Green was more memorable and far more emotionally impactful for me.

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    Yeah, I’m not sure I’ll ever revisit Last Tango again – and this is coming from someone who once probably would’ve been partial to Brando in that Best Actor field. (Now, I side with Pacino.)

    THE OSCAR 100 (#65-61): Angela Lansbury, Shirley MacLaine, Vivien Leigh, Jane Darwell and Faye Dunaway

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