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    Seems like he’s a little triggered by the possibility of an Avengers: Endgame good showing at the Oscar nominations;

    Scorsese: Marvel movies aren’t movies; they’re ‘theme parks’:
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/04/martin-scorsese-says-marvel-movies-are-not-cinema

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    He is right and he should say it. Marvel movies are purely entertainment pop corn flicks, McDonalds of movies. Enjoying and liking your fast food is perfectly fine, unless you start pretending it’s some high cuisine.

    My fave part was meltdown of some of Marvel nerds. They either don’t know who Scorsese is, think he doesn’t know anything about cinema or think he directed Apocalypse Now.

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    Let’s be real. Scorsese should stop saying snob bullshit.

    I serve the tea (politely)

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    Let’s be real : he’s 100% right. Because of Marvel, people think these film are « cinema », they have changed the perspective of what is « good cinema » when it’s not. They lowered people’s standart with these movies, making them believe they are great film. Just look at the critics score on Rotten Tomatoes. Half of the Marvel movies deserve a rotten score but oh no! Even the worst movies are still fresh. Alienation. These movies have no emotions, no characterization, no original stories (some have but in the end it’s almost always the same thing). It’s purely « entertaining », but people now think that’s what cinema really is. It’s not.

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    I agree with the full quote. This shortened version makes it sound more snobbish than it is.

    As much as i love Avengers and I would be so happy if it has a strong showing come Oscar night, it most likely would only get 1 nomination.

    Still, “cinema” is changing. The Oscars should reflect that.

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    Endgame isn’t coming anywhere near a best picture nomination. Scorsese doesn’t feel threatened, he’s just telling the truth.

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    I agree with the full quote. This shortened version makes it sound more snobbish than it is. As much as i love Avengers and I would be so happy if it has a strong showing come Oscar night, it most likely would only get 1 nomination. Still, “cinema” is changing. The Oscars should reflect that.

    My thoughts exactly. He was actually really respectful, just voicing an opinion shared by many, not at all newsworthy.

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    Marvel is actually giving people of color and women a chance unlike Scorsese and his peers. He’s more upset that he cant get a proper theater release for his expensive ass movie.

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    It’s Marty ‘fer crying out loud.

    He can say whatever he wants.

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    Marvel is actually giving people of color and women a chance unlike Scorsese and his peers. He’s more upset that he cant get a proper theater release for his expensive ass movie.

    Exactly. At least these Marvel movies have some diversity.

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    Marvel is actually giving people of color and women a chance unlike Scorsese and his peers. He’s more upset that he cant get a proper theater release for his expensive ass movie.

    C’mon England. Maybe he’ll vote for Black Widow next awards season….

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    because thats more important than art?right?inclusion,fuck art,lol you are ridiculous

    So when those of color are excluded, its art? Only white men can make art?

    I do think Disney as a whole is doing too much but we are now seeing Asians, Blacks, and Latino talents getting recognized. There are more female directors than ever making films. By the way, superhero films have kept the film industry alive. Without it, studios would be following the music industry which has turned to a streaming industry.

    Also, James Cameron films are basically superhero films without the comicbook history. One genre just simply took over.

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    Marvel is actually giving people of color and women a chance unlike Scorsese and his peers.  

    First woman who won Oscar for directing wasn’t Marvel’s. First POC actor and actress who won BA Oscar didn’t win it for Marvel movies. So no, Marvel is not groundbreakingly special in this.

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    I don’t get why people are mad about this. Martin Scorsese is a 76 year old man, I don’t expect a 76 year old man to think movies like Endgame and Black Panther are anymore than fun popcorn cinema.

    I think that is silly to think, because Scorese at this point is making products to. The Irishman is not some indie arthouse film like Leave No Trace or The Florida Project. It is a 175 million dollar budget movie funded by Netflix because they believe it will drive subscription numbers for their service with a cast of Oscar winners. It’s just as much of a product as Black Panther is, it is not like he is making films like Taxi Driver anymore.

    Also popcorn cinema can be better than serious cinema. Just because something is more personal and not designed to make tons of money doesn’t make it better. I am just a casual superhero film fan overall, but a movie like Guardians of the Galaxy is still miles better to me than say, Gangs of New York, one of Scorese worst films.

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    Martin Scorsese can dislike superhero films. He claimed that it was not for him, and that’s OK. But then he goes to say that it isn’t cinema and compares them to theme parks. That’s where he’s wrong- cinema is making movies for a specific audience. The MCU and Martin Scorsese have differing audiences. Also, comparing them to theme parks is downright insulting, considering that people put their heart and soul into these projects, and when they are great, they are FANTASTIC. People like James Mangold, James Gunn, and the Russo Brothers go above and beyond to make the best superhero stories possible.

    Oscars 2020: I stan Joaquin Phoenix, Willem Dafoe, Alan Silvestri, and Dean Deblois.

    Emmys 2020: I stan Logan Lerman, Olivia Colman, and David Harbour.

    Tom Hanks and Amy Adams stan in general.

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