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  • babypook
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    My point is, Coppolla and Scorsese are arguing that cinema needs to be left for the art films but the only thing keeping the cinema alive is Disney and Marvel movies.

    Exactly. Your point was clear from the beginning.

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    Dana S.
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    Both Coppolla and Scorsese are right.

    Also David Fincher is not the fan of Marvel either. He said it 2 years ago.

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    babypook
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    They may be “right” but since the film industry is a business, they could end up with no venues to display their art.

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    MMartin
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    The Marvel anger feels misplaced, Marvel generally makes well reviewed blockbusters that are solid crowd pleasing entertainment.

    I think what Coppola and Scorsese are finding more boring and despicable than Marvel is the never ending Hollywood sequel, prequel, reboot machine where Hollywood is always looking to cash in on the next existing IP and barely promote anything original anymore. Marvel is just getting attention because it is the biggest.

    But it is one of the better ones, compare the Marvel boom to the countless horror movie remakes and sequels, just this year we have had Zombieland: Double Tap, Pet Cemetery, Child’s Play, and Annabelle: Creation off the top of my head. Or the soulless Disney live action remakes like The Lion King, Maleficent: Mistress of Evil, and Aladdin. Or the big budget flops waiting to happen like Men in Black: International and Dark Phoenix. Or the really pointless out of nowhere remakes like Shaft, What Men Want. The animated sequels that didn’t need to happen like Angry Birds 2.

    I understand from a creator standpoint how this can be exhausting, as a viewer standpoint it is exhausting. A content stream of IP clogs the theaters, and if you live in a smaller town with one 8 auditorium theater it is very possible all 8 or at least 6 or 7 screens are all either remakes, sequel, reboots, or prequels.

    But at least Marvel is doing this well, compared to things like Shaft and Maleficent: Mistress of Evil that should have never been greenlite by the studio.

    I yearn for more original blockbusters that make a whole lot of money, films like Back to the Future and Raiders of the Lost Ark. 

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    WildforFilm
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    Wow, some of ya’ll are triggered. Yikes.

    Marvel films are entertaining, but let’s be real, they aren’t really award worthy, which is fine.

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    They may be “right” but since the film industry is a business, they could end up with no venues to display their art.

    I think their biggest gripe is what they see as the monopolization of that business – something that can/will further push them out of venues as Disney controls what plays in a theater and what doesn’t.

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    I think their biggest gripe is what they see as the monopolization of that business – something that can/will further push them out of venues as Disney controls what plays in a theater and what doesn’t.

    I’m not a Disney fan. Politically they’ve morphed into a corrupt entity. I’m all for opposing control freaks.

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    Coppola’s recent filmography has been crap. No wonder some people don’t know he’s even alive. At least Scorsese has been consistent in his output.

    Youth Without Youth is arguably the best film of 2007, and likewise Tetro and Twixt are among the best films of their respective years. Careful there with your “Coppola’s recent filmography has been crap.”

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    Rachel
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    2007 is 12 years ago…it’s not recent.

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    FairWeatherAffair
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    …my point still stands, Rachel, no matter your definition of “recent.”

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    eastwest
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    why you people have to bring the age card to this conversation? I am 29 and I hate superheroes movies too.

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    Thatcher, Former Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Darlings, I’m sick of all these comic book fanboys who pretend to know more about cinema than Scorsese and Coppola. Ugh you’re disgusting. Pull yourself together!

    I was your Prime Minister once.

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    Youth Without Youth is arguably the best film of 2007, and likewise Tetro and Twixt are among the best films of their respective years. Careful there with your “Coppola’s recent filmography has been crap.”

    Eh. The last good film he has made is probably Life Without Zoë. Half of his work after that has been downright bad and the other half has struggled to be more than just mediocre. He should be glad that he is still held in higher regard than some of his lesser known but more proficient contemporaries.

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    They may be “right” but since the film industry is a business, they could end up with no venues to display their art.

    Coppola basically retired years ago and Scorsese teamed up with Netflix. So they can voice the truth about  Marvel  without fear for venues or anything like that.

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    Coppola basically retired years ago and Scorsese teamed up with Netflix. So they can voice the truth about Marvel without fear for venues or anything like that.

    This is an awesome insight. I have mixed feelings, but outside of hate speech I always side with freedom to say whatever the heck you want.

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